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Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'

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jadefinch · 03/04/2020 12:16

How is this anything other than a men's rights movement?

Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'
Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'
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Trinovantes · 04/04/2020 02:00

Jane Fae has chosen to spend their political energy and time on defending extremely violent porn, including snuff, bestiality, rape and incest porn.

Jane Fae attributes women's deaths as due to their "eggshell skulls" and not the choices of the men who beat those women to death.;

Jane Fae doesn't see or value the disproportionate efforts of women in the caring professions.

Jane Fae makes ageist and sexist assumptions about women.

Jane Fae's opinions are worthless.

SophocIestheFox · 04/04/2020 05:46

Just checking in to log that JF always makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Misogyny writ large, and knitting furiously.

toriap2 · 04/04/2020 07:23

But if Fae is a woman as Fae claims, surely this means Fae is also not pulling their weight. Maybe this thread is Fae trying To show their internal guilt? Or not.

CoronaVera · 04/04/2020 07:34

WTF.

Two female nurses have just died. My whole dept (NHS) is probably 80% female. I want this person to stop spouting their vile drivel. And stop knitting.

AnyOldSpartabix · 04/04/2020 07:51

But if Fae is a woman as Fae claims, surely this means Fae is also not pulling their weight.

Fae made it crystal clear it’s only women who are not pulling their weight. Trans individuals of the male sex are, of course, not included.

As others have pointed out, Fae’s suggests that it’s women who lie about their age when, in fact, Fae is guilty of doing exactly that.

I conclude this is projection. Fae lies about Fae’s age and is not pulling Fae’s weight, but is determined to blame those objects of hate and the subjects of Fae’s jealousy: women.

DickKerrLadies · 04/04/2020 08:40

The TRAs never let a little thing like the truth get in the way of a lie.

WrathofFaeKIopp · 04/04/2020 10:01

Being coy about one's age is so 1950's.

Dontcha just love the 1950's stereotypes with a bit of violent saucy porn thrown in.

WrathofFaeKIopp · 04/04/2020 10:08

This one?
I can't lie, it's my favourite clip.

www.m.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-xLnrnXMg

borntobequiet · 04/04/2020 10:49

Yuk that clip.

WrathofFaeKIopp · 04/04/2020 11:58

Emile Ratelband makes a good point, old age isn't a lifestyle choice.

Fae disagrees.

Haworthia · 04/04/2020 12:11

Jane Fae is a despicable human being.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/04/2020 12:15

Fae is the TRA who makes my blood run most cold, far more than any of the others

Yes. The special rules mean that none of us are allowed to go over why that is in a way that would be useful to others so all I can really say is, trust your gut. If someone makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up there's generally a reason for that.

R0wantrees · 04/04/2020 12:27

September 2018 Fae organised a TRA conference in London. Dawn Butler MP (shadow Women & Equalities minister) was the keynote speaker.

OP TheHarpySings wrote:

'We’re Still Here Conference 8th September: A report from the inside'
(extract)
First off, I’m a regular poster, have been here for years under various usernames, it I’m posting here on a name change as I don’t want this traced to me.

On 8th September there was a conference held in London a Bloomsbury Baptist Church which was called We’re Still Here, which featured a variety of panels and workshops and was attended by many prominent people in the pro-GRA reform camp.

I decided to attend to find out what was being said as it was clear that they did not want anyone to attend that wasn’t a TRA or an ally.

What follows are my notes from the day. But first a few notes on attendance:

There were probably 80-100 people in attendance. Overwhelmingly white. Mainly older transwomen. A couple of transmen. Some Mermaids delegates. Some fellow travellers/ allies. And me.

Okay. So here’s my notes (continues)

  1. Education Panel:

There were 4 panelists and I didn’t get all their names. One was called something like “Zed”, who is NB (female) and works in a school. They want a trans ally in everyone school.

Anna Carlisle was also on the panel- she works at Goldsmiths and is a colleague of Natascha Kennedy.

This panel’s recommendations was to get the pro-gender extremist philosophy in at school governor level and find allies.

Some of their examples of where policy was good but inclusive practise was not good were hilarious. Apparently one of the panelists (who works for a charity) went to a school with an amazingly liberal dress code but none of the kids violated gender norms… so obviously there was a problem!

They want every single policy to be “inclusive”.

Jane Fae chipped in saying how sad she was that Natascha Kennedy got “monstered” in the Times that weekend and asked what could they do about “safety” re: universities with “known transphobic academics” like Kathleen Stock.

One panellist said naming and shaming doesn’t do any good. Anna Carlisle (NK’s colleague) said she was interested in what management’s response to the Times story would be.

One of the other panellists (a recently transitioned TW teacher) described the current events as a “war”.

Zed talked about offering a “safe space” for trans kids who maybe couldn’t be trans at home.. either because parents are unaware or unsupportive so the kids change at school and essentially live a double life.

Helen Webbeley (!!!!) then said she’d seen so much suffering of trans kids and asked about how to help kids who were trans who couldn’t face going to school.

Mermaids are apparently interested in researching the crossover with trans/ autism and also sexual orientation. Also “queering” PE as a lot of trans kids don’t get involved and spend a lot of time online.

Notable misogynist Adrian Harrop then chipped in asking about Transgender Trend’s school pack (which, he was very sad face to say, is the top hit on Google) and how we can stop this sick filth getting into schools.

Anna Carlisle said the Transgender Trend pack “made her sick… it was so mean!”

Zed and another panellist said that their networks (through LGBT sectors in teaching unions) were trying to “make schools aware” not to pay attention to the TransgenderTrend packs. Apparently the Mermaids resources have been ok’d by the Human Rights Commission and will “trump” the Transgender Trend packs. (continues)

  1. Equalities Act

So… there was a kind of informal meeting during lunchtime about The Equalities Act which was being run by everyone’s favourite advocate for extreme porn, Jane Fae. Edward Lord turned up, straight from a meeting with the City of London Corp. PlEASE NOTE THAT FAE AND LORD DID NOT WANT THIS SECTION TWEETED.

Edward Lord. He was dressed like Tweedledum. Or, if I’m feeling generous, a Mario Brother that doesn’t get invited to Xmas dinner anymore.

Mr Lord was very bumfaced about the Andrew Gilligan article about him in July and said that opposition to the GRA consultation just wanted to “cause mayhem.” He directly mentioned the Man Friday Hampstead Pond stuff.

Apparently “there have been no incidents of men turning up to the women’s pond but Man Friday turned up to the men’s pond and demanded admission- by force if necessary.”

As of 8/9/18, 15.5k people had completed the attitudes survey.

Lord said that TW were entitled to the protected characteristic “Woman”- he said the Gov dept on woman and equalities has confirmed this. Apparently the brave and stunning vexatious litigator Giuliana Kendall has something to do with this being confirmed.

Edward Lord is worried about the 125 elected members of the London assembly or whatever the fuck Londoners have governing the city. Not all of them are onside. He is worried that all of this is going to be discussed at committee and that “terfs are going to protest”.

Jane Fae said that JF has been in contact w/ YHA and GirlGuiding. Fae is of the opinion that the law doesn’t distinguish gender and sex. They are not defined and parliament will not define them.

The TRAs are fully prepared to take local councils to court of they try to invoke EA2010 for reasons of sex. JF was nodding at Giuliana when JF said this.

James Morton (Scottish Trans Alliance) said to be “strategic about test cases to ensure strong case law”.

Edward Lord agreed. He also said that the City of London Corp city solicitor and the Chief Exec are “strong allies”.

Regards the consultation doc put out by the City of London Corp… Lord implied that they were going to go through the answers and cherry pick the the qualitative snapshots.

One of the Mermaids mums in attendance said the “banner of concerned mothers of vulnerable children shouldn’t be captured by bigots”. Lord is meeting officers about how data is presented and is “conscious of that line of argument”

Jane Fae said the GC side are spreading a myth of predatory males- which doesn’t happen (!!! Lolz Karen White). And also spreading the myth that that TW are paedophiles (Loz Karen White x2).

Then (and Fae didn’t want this tweeted) apparently, there ARE terrible people exploiting The Equalities Act. And they are…

Man Friday
We Need To Talk
Fair Play for Women

According to Fae, all of the above have broken laws and engaged in upskirting and crotch shots of TW. Fae talked about debating Amy Desir of Man Friday about refuges. Amy talked about how female socialisation essentially stops us from refusing TW in our spaces.

JF then asked people not to tweet this next bit because it is libellous: Amy Desir took her husband into the Next changing rooms to commit voyeurism.
Fae (shouting): “Who is the pervert now?!!”

JF hopes that Amy and Man Friday are prosecuted. (continues)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

SureSureSure · 04/04/2020 12:43

Fae sounds fucking loco.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/04/2020 12:46

According to Fae, all of the above have broken laws and engaged in upskirting and crotch shots of TW.

In the (unlikely imo) event that there is a market for upskirt shots of transwomen I'm fairly certain that said market consists entirely of male individuals with very little interest in women's rights.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 04/04/2020 13:06

Remind me how these people are not fifth columnists for the men's rights privilege movement?

DuLANGDuLANGDuLANG · 04/04/2020 13:21

Hey, look! Latest ICNARC report shows enormous discrepancy in the sex balance between those who are critically ill with CV19 and those who have been critically ill with Flu in the preceding 2 years, yet anything ‘gendered’ (such as smoking/drinking habits or a history of working in heavy industry or ‘cis’ women not pulling their weight 🙄) is going to be the same.

Even in elderly age groups where women outnumber men, the percentage of male deaths is still higher.

Biological sex difference is real.
CV19 gives no fucks about gender.

www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/76a7364b-4b76-ea11-9124-00505601089b

Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'
PertEllaTitsahoy · 04/04/2020 14:07

Hmmm... its interesting how the usual trans defenders have nothing to say on this vile man.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/04/2020 14:20

^Biological sex difference is real.
CV19 gives no fucks about gender.^

Quite. I'm sure Fae the leading expert on COVID-19 is deleting Fae's tweet and apologising for misleading people as we speak.

bellinisurge · 04/04/2020 14:23

That tweet is fucked up. Seriously fucked up.

koshkatt · 04/04/2020 14:25

God I love that clip. Boody brilliant!

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 04/04/2020 14:35

its interesting how the usual trans defenders have nothing to say on this vile man.

I think that's honestly because most of the egregious fuckwits who enjoy doing that on FWR are currently enjoying making scared women suffer in the coronavirus topic...

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/04/2020 16:04

Indeed, I've seen some very familiar names in the coronavirus threads.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 04/04/2020 16:07

Low rent psychopaths gonna low rent psychopath, I guess.

HorseRadishFemish · 04/04/2020 16:14

Enjoying your posts today, LadyQP