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Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'

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jadefinch · 03/04/2020 12:16

How is this anything other than a men's rights movement?

Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'
Jane Fae: The coronavirus death rate for men is high possibly because women 'are not pulling their weight in the crisis'
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BatShite · 08/04/2020 13:58

Government criticised for not collecting sex disaggregated Covid-19 data

For fucks sake..

I did wonder if medical staff and such had finaslly started recording sex rather than 'gender', given the stats say men are higher risk so obviously sex should be noted. I guess theres the answer..noones 'gender' will make a difference at all, pretending it does is dangerous. Unless I guess, in the coming weeks we find out that those who wear dresses and nail varnish are lower risk for some reason. But I doubt that somehow.

I find it ridiculous that any medical notes recorded 'gender' in the first bloody place. Sex matters in some areas of life, and medical sruff is one of the most serious areas!

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 08/04/2020 14:49

They just can't help themselves. Saw an article today going on about the 'gender' difference, which then quoted a medic using 'sex', but you could read the gritted teeth through the type.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 08/04/2020 14:52

Oh, here we go. Actually, I take it back, the medic doesn't mention sex. It's in the body of the article, they use 'sex hormones' because I suppose they haven't yet managed to convince anyone 'gender hormones' are a thing.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52197594

NoMorePoliticsPlease · 08/04/2020 14:56

Women have two x chromozomes, has an effect on the immune system, well documented,

R0wantrees · 11/04/2020 11:25

10/4/2020 Janice Turner for The Times
'Coronavirus exposes gulf between the sexes
There’s a cruel irony in the fact that men, for all their superior strength, are dying in greater numbers than women'

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"Now we know superior female strength is internal: we may lose every Olympic race to men but we ace the long game. More boys are born, 105 to 100 girls, because nature knows that by the age of 40 this will have evened out. Women are better at enduring famine, infections and cancer. There is an inbuilt female health advantage at every age, from surviving premature birth to living longer as wiry, seemingly indestructible old ladies like my mother: eight in ten centenarians are women. It helps that the greatest female health risk — death in childbirth — has, at least in developed nations, largely been tamed.

"But with Covid-19, as with other viruses, the sex factor is stark. This, argues Sharon Moalem, author of The Better Half, is because women are stronger at genetic level. Females have two X chromosomes — one from their mothers, the other from fathers — but males have only a single X, and a Y from their fathers. Having two Xs, says Dr Moalem, can offer a survival advantage because, in essence, women have a spare, meaning fewer congenital birth abnormalities or developmental disabilities such as autism.

And in a pandemic that double X is a true blessing: one X chromosome in a cell can spot the invading virus, while the other X works on killing cells that are infected already. With just a single X and a weedier Y, men lack that double-barrelled protection. Moreover, higher levels of testosterone in men, says Dr Moalem, repress the immune system, while oestrogen stimulates it.

How extraordinary that it took Covid-19 to expose the absurdity of an utterly unscientific argument gaining mainstream traction, and posed as recently as the Labour leadership election, that biological sex is not real but an artificial construct, randomly “assigned” to babies at birth. In fact, sex is coded in our very cells and, as this epidemic reveals, can affect our odds for life or death.

Yet despite these stark differences there has been a paucity of sex aggregated data to help fight the virus and find a possible cure. The Lancet argues this week that “obscuring sex and gender differences in treatment and vaccine development could result in harm”. In Invisible Women, the author Caroline Criado Perez exposed how the default patient in medical research is invariably male, as women with their variable hormone levels are thought to skew data. As Dr Moalem writes: “The medical establishment has largely overlooked the profound chromosomal, hormonal and anatomical uniqueness of genetic females.”

Already, The Lancet notes, the lockdown burdens of impoverishment, housework, care for children and the elderly have fallen disproportionately upon women, while there has been a global rise in domestic violence.But the virus itself is killing more men and this male fragility is a terrifying shock."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-exposes-gulf-between-the-sexes-rsc69njkv?shareToken=f194e7faf4ff3011666661116493599a&wgu=270525_54264_15865970780505_d44ec2608f&wgexpiry=1594373078&utm_source=planit&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=22278

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/04/2020 14:06

Thank you Janice and Dr Moalem.

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