BBC2 Politics Live just after 11am this morning

[Awning10]

.Copied from Twitter:
@selina_todd
will be on Politics Live, BBC2, this morning shortly after 11am, talking about
@Labour_Trans
' demands and the #ExpelMe hashtag.

Selina was v good - although there wasn't loads of time (and lots of talking over from beardy eejit), between her and the presenter (also good!) they touched on a number of different aspects which I think will have got people who haven't so far been involved with the issues to prick up their ears and hopefully want to go and find out more. Whereas the beard dug himself into some holes! Also Shaun Bailey spoke up for free speech and against no-platforming.

Glad I'm not in the Labour Party, it has joined the SGP (which I left) in being toxic for women. I think any women in the LP would be better standing their ground and forcing the LP to take disciplinary procedures against hundreds of them if they can be bothered with this and think the LP has any policies worth staying in for.

Twitter also thinks he's an embarrassment

I hope this story continues to get more coverage today.

EwwSprouts Bloody hell - he acts like a little kid! Shadow foreign minister - shiiiit. I actually can't imagine ever voting for Labour again.

Interestingly the beardy one said he had not read the declaration at the end.

He's getting totally slammed on twitter. A scroll through the hashtag - suggests the public at large (not just feminists) are incredulous. I can only see 2 tweeters in support one a transwoman & the other is incoherent.

I just cannot for the life of me understand how trans ideology extremists have managed to get such a grip of the party.

Also Lloyd defamed LGB alliance & wpuk as hate groups.

I so wish someone would sue but the style is to match on, shoulders back & head up high.

Wow. Unlike some on this board I'm not on Twitter or involved in politics and so have little exposure to people like that Labour bloke with the beard.

Watching that was both disturbing and revealing.

I thought Selina Todd was brilliant. Calm, measured, polite, on top of the facts. Everything he was not.

Yes! Yes! to PP who says that wokeyblokey hadn't even read the pledge he was rabidly defending!!

I thought Selina Todd was brilliant. Calm, measured, polite, on top of the facts. Everything he was not.

Absolutely. She covered a lot of ground in a very short time, and I loved her final word - it was pointed and convincing, unlike the spluttering and spitting of feathers from him as he tried to respond. Selina is a very, very impresive woman.

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1227559014126555136

ClodesMouches I think hate is all he has. All the arguments are built on emotion and any ‘facts’ are superficial and crumble to dust in the clear light of day.

Hate is all that is left which is ridiculous as that is what he profess To be fighting.

twitter.com/ruthferrisprice/status/1227563428425949184

I wish the gloves would come off on tv at this point and it would just be said as straight as it is on twitter, your position is anti woman and anti LGB. You cannot say female single sex spaces and single sex rights and biology is transphobic and deny it.

And I'm sick of the whole 'we need a debate' line. No, we don't need a debate, a debate isn't possible any more, the people that would need to turn up from the gender id extremist movement do not have the capacity to debate. As he's said, if women are allowed to the table at all in his opinion then they must first be strait jacketed with what they're allowed to say and talk about (and women having rights won't be included.)

Trans people can do whatever the hell they want, crack on.
But female rights, safeguarding and single sex spaces get ring fenced. End of. Additional resources gonna be needed because female people's resources aren't available.

Beardy twat is an MP!

Oh come off it I thought at worse he would be a political adviser.

Yes. His support of limiting the discussion points for any future debate was frightening indeed.

However, the debate does need to be very long as so many issues feed into this one umbrella topic. As we saw with the complication for points for discussion for webchats.

Beardy twat is an MP!

From Brighton, Beadytwat Central, and they have a right to be represented.

Selina brilliant.
Beardy woke bloke MP repulsive misogynist

How often we see that expression in the eyes of a male when we're saying something that doesn't have their full approval.
Yyy, seen this all my life. Pure misogyny. Nothing else there.

Selina Todd my shero!!! I was at her workshop in the WPUK conference.... She is awesome.

I wonder if he watches that back and realises just how badly he comes across. Just really immature.

Nobody that stupid with that amount of power has got to where they have got through self reflection. This is the power of a sociopath, they have total self belief. It's very hard for those used to measured, reasoned and open debate, who have logic, science and reason on their side, to argue with these people. The old adage is "you can't argue with stupid". You can't argue with the brainwashed, and you can't argue with the sociopath either. These movements (like Scientology and all other new religions) absolutely rely on their members giving up all logic, reason, material reality. They ask you to believe the unbelievable as "proof" of your goodness. If you do not, you are, what Scientology coins, a "suppressive person" (same as a transphobe, or a heretic).

Mangoes I was at her workshop too! She is massively intelligent and well read, also warm, compassionate and articulate - worth a million million beardies

Selina made a good point that this expressed disregard for democracy within the Labour party does not bode well for a Labour government upholding democracy in the country at large. A point which the bearded twat helpfully and amply illustrated by his shouting over her and Shaun Bailey with his reality-denying mantras. He also raised alarm bells in the previous segment about how Labour should have its own propaganda publication cunningly disguised as a tabloid newspaper with sport and celebrity gossip to lure in the thick plebs.

Imagine if they actually got into power and extended this policy to the population at large. The 90% of the population that doesn't believe that women can have a penis would be locked up in re-education camps. No wonder people think that Labour can't be trusted with the economy - there would be no one working, other than as Red Guards!

Explain yourself fully or be expelled. This is no different to the Spanish Inquisition. 500 years ago, this bloke would have been stretching people on a rack and burning them at the stake.

DP quote "the Conservative party must be rubbing their hands in glee... all they need to do is keep showing that up north and they'll never be voted for ever again."

"the Labour party will never be voted for again."

Interesting that the clip on AnotherNights's link is the calmly stated GC position of Selina Todd.

Is this the BBC showing the other side?