M&S + John Lewis - your poor Christmas sales will be due to the contempt you've shown your female customers

[Sunkisses]

It's all over the news that M&S and John Lewis have had terrible Christmas sales. I am absolutely sure this is due to the terrible press coverage they received and viral threads of Twitter about how they allow men into the female changing rooms, the contempt they treated their female customers with when we voiced our complaints, and the 1,000s of us who pledged not to shop with them over Christmas. I stuck by my pledge over Christmas and they lost about £1,000 of custom from me with gifts and food. Anyone else kept up their boycott?

The ick factor is just too strong now.

And finally, no more thumbs-ups or downs. Why do M&S need them? What is that about, even? Get rid.

I suspect this is a cost saving, artificial intelligence type thing. Lots of thumbs down will either automatically delete the review or flag it up to an actual human being to review.

Maybe if we collectively started to thumbs down all the reviews that explicitly say ‘as a man’ ‘fits a male’ etc action would be taken? I reckon it would only take 40-50 thumbs down make a particular review flag up.

DuMondeB, I’ve already made this my mission but the more of us who do it the better!

I can tell you that some "laydee reviews" I have posted on a similar (but not sick-making) way have been downvoted quote a lot.

They need a Per Unum range but I expect that would be misgendering in some way.
But! Having looked, surely Per Una should be Per Unam, as per seemingly takes the accusative? Or is it really named for someone called Una, except that’s an anglicised Irish name?

It's Italian, so it would be Per Uno.

It wouldn't appeal though, for all sorts of reasons...

Oh, silly me. Well at least I revisited Latin for about the second time in 45 years.
Slightly puzzled now why the range was given an Italian name in the first place. Or perhaps all those unnecessary frills and buttons are an Italian thing?
I should really go to bed.

I was thinking exactly this O.P. Women just quietly voting with our feet. I normally pop in at Christmas to get decorations ( I’m a bit obsessed.) and I like to update each year but I went to an alternative retailer who wants my money. I have not bought a thing in John Lewis since. Not one thing. I’ve also stopped using a few other stores where I feel uncomfortable changing. We have options and we are using them.

Noticed this today. This predator has been banned from entering or loitering outside any female-only facilities and must declare any membership of spas or leisure facilities to police using his real name" once he is released from prison .
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18169169.pervert-filmed-naked-women-darwen-leisure-centre-trafford-centre---children-changing-rooms/

Yet he will be completely free to use M & S's lingerie and other mixed sex changing rooms because any man who is more comfortable using them is free to do so.

Please send your observations to M&S. I’ve written to them but received no answer. Quel surprise 🤬 I’d like M&S management to be inundated with valid complaints about their policies that endanger women and girls. If enough of us protest maybe they’ll get it into their thick skulls. Otherwise how many women and girls will perverts need to be film or attack before common effing sense prevails?

I think most of us on this thread Tubbytwo have written, cancelled our accounts and are generally boycotting them. We've all had dismissive emails back so they are presumably far more concerned about Stonewall etc than they are about the safety and feelings of their women customers.

I guessed most of you had probably already written too and I'm sorry that you've all had the same response. They've not even had the courtesy to reply to me with their woke weasel words. I shall patiently keep down voting the AGP knicker reviews even though I feel grubby after reading them.

It's pathetic isn't it? That's all the 'power' we have in the face of intolerable danger to at least half the population :(

How about an open letter Liston four concerns and respectively asking for answers - signed The Women

- signed The Women 

Might need to add the definition of 'woman' just to help them out 🤷‍♀️

Great, M&S drafts in Topshop boss to head up womenswear.

Topshop also encourages men to change with girls
Waiting for womeswear to change its name to peopleswear

www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/01/ms-drafts-another-topshop-executive/

womenswear
I didn't purposely miss out a letter (or replace one with an X )

I think you have the makings of a good rallying cry ' HandsOffMyRights, I won't buy your tights"! Sorry, I am happy to find any crumb of humour I can in these days of totalitarian rule :(

I didn't buy anything from M&S this Christmas. I haven't bought anything from them since the boycott was in place and I am someone who used to buy lots from there. I wrote to them and received a very patronising reply. They have spoken and so I shall listen and respond accordingly.

. They have spoken and so I shall listen and respond accordingly.

Very well put.

And I'm still boycotting...

Oh yes, me too, SingingLANGly.

Think about it - a thousand women, each not spending let’s say a thousand pounds with M&S/JL over Nov-Dec, that is an awful lot of revenue lost. I dare say there are many more than that boycotting (myself included), and likely some of those would ordinarily have spent far more than ‘just’ a thousand over the past three months. Plus, the two or three women, at a conservative estimate, that each of those women have spoken to and who may well have joined the boycott.

This is hurting them where it counts. However that is not the reason for my boycott - I simply refuse to spend with a company that treats me and other women with contempt. I shall continue to boycott until they come to their senses.

Thanks LangClegsOpinionIsNoted

If a shop doesn't care about the safety of women then they can't really complain if women stop shopping there. It's not like we haven't told them why.

I would have normally used m and s for food at the hospital. Not this time. Ok not a lot of cash but the little bits add up.

I’ve stopped. It’s annoying because I’ve recently taken up crochet & love the JL haberdashery but I’ll find an independent or buy online.