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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guardian journalist: Don't debate drag

157 replies

RoyalCorgi · 23/12/2019 13:09

Guardian journalists, eh? They never tire of telling women to shut up:

twitter.com/ChrisPJGodfrey/status/1209040941648138240

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happydappy2 · 23/12/2019 13:22

The cats out of the bag now-what is the difference between black face & woman face?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 23/12/2019 13:25

It's nothing new is it, it's a left leaning paper who are once again dictating what should and should be discussed in public, it's happened for decades.

koshkat · 23/12/2019 13:30

You could have predicted that he would look exactly as he looks - bearded woke bro wanker.

FFSFFSFFS · 23/12/2019 13:30

I genuinely find drag deeply offensive and am amazed that no one else does.

Its men wanted to be celebrated for fulfilling stereotypes that women have forced on them every single day.

I find zero entertainment in it at all.

It's just men wanting attention for doing what women do day in day out. Same old. Same old.

I"m genuinely perplexed that its not perceived as problematic.

skql · 23/12/2019 13:30

"ok... i will tell you what can be debate or not.
and what language you can use.
and what conclusion you have to find."

koshkat · 23/12/2019 13:30

Me too.

Fraggling · 23/12/2019 13:35

Huh?

Do they ever say that other historically oppressed groups cannot discuss things they are uncomfortable with?

Or is it just women?

IsadoraQuagmire · 23/12/2019 13:50

You could have predicted that he would look exactly as he looks - bearded woke bro wanker

That's their uniform...

IsadoraQuagmire · 23/12/2019 14:01

Hahaha he just blocked me for insulting him Grin Grin Grin

EveryKingdomOfRain · 23/12/2019 14:07

Oh ha, ha, bloody ha, ha.

I have a twitter account only to see what certain people I find interesting. I've never, ever tweeted.

I was reading his Twitter feed and this popped up.

Oh the irony. From a journalist and the po- faced Guardian.

Guardian journalist: Don't debate drag
EveryKingdomOfRain · 23/12/2019 14:08

Sorry here is the image.

Guardian journalist: Don't debate drag
PotholePalace · 23/12/2019 14:08

Yes, whatever you do, don't write about what your readers want.

IsadoraQuagmire · 23/12/2019 14:13

So he blocked those of us who called him out, then he blocked the rest of Twitter! Obviously shocked and confused to discover that nobody agrees with him. What a loser! Grin

endofthelinefinally · 23/12/2019 14:18

Sharron Davies is getting a telling off from Lorraine Kelly for having an opinion on this.
Lorraine Kelly thinks dressing up in drag saves lives and is a lot of fun...

FFSFFSFFS · 23/12/2019 14:19

Uhoh. Those pesky women have dared to disagree with him. So he's shut up shop.

Fab to see the Guardian continuing to do its best for free speech and women's rights.

WomanBornNotWorn · 23/12/2019 14:29

Women:

Put up
Shove up
Shut up

CrissmussMockers · 23/12/2019 14:32

I'd boycott the Guardian if I hadn't stopped buying it thirty years ago.

jadefinch · 23/12/2019 14:53

this is what he posted and an example of a typical reply

Guardian journalist: Don't debate drag
Guardian journalist: Don't debate drag
CodenameVillanelle · 23/12/2019 14:55

I don't like drag and I agree with the criticisms that it is a sexist parody of femininity and femaleness but I've read lots of critique from black feminists of the comparison with blackface. I don't think it's accurate or helpful.

boatyardblues · 23/12/2019 14:59

That second tweet on your post JadeFinch!

EveryKingdomOfRain · 23/12/2019 14:59

It's slightly ironic but I am fairly indifferent to drag. My husband on the other hand thinks it's "woman face" and offensive to women.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 23/12/2019 14:59

It’s a cheap laugh at women’s expense, which has had its time. Shocking (but not surprising) that a journalist would seek to prevent debate. Another beardy wokebro - we’ve come to expect it.

EveryKingdomOfRain · 23/12/2019 15:05

Re straight cis people not being entitled to have an opinion on anything queer are my 2 very conservative gay friends entitled to have an opinion?

One in particular is very Douglas Murray style and really dislikes queerness, camp etc.

TheGoldenNotebook · 23/12/2019 15:08

Straight cis women are not allowed to have an opinion on an aspect of the oppression of women. But any old dolt with a beard can.

EveryKingdomOfRain · 23/12/2019 15:08

I was thinking about this on the train- is any subject genuinely not up for debate? I came up with-

"The Nazi concentration camps didn't exist"
Even there I would not seek to silence people questioning the number of victims- it's a pointless and offensive debating point but knock yourself out if you want.