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Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

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MrsFogi · 09/12/2019 22:51

I know there is a split of opinion about spoiling ballots vs voting for the least bad option.

If you do decide to spoil your ballot it feel free to post a photo of it here (be careful not to include any information that identifies you and in particular not to include the ballot's unique identification number) in case any of our loitering journalists wish to pick up the story or in the hope of giving the parties/candidates some pause for thought.

In case it is of interest (and you want a place to post your views for/against spoiling ballots), there have been a number of threads about spoiling ballots, a few links below:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3751902-Spoiling-my-ballot?pg=2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3749890-Can-we-talk-spoiling-ballots-again-sorry
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3743237-advice-on-spoiling-ballot
Advice on Spoiling your vote

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VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 20:32

90 rtft, don’t expect us to spoon feed it to you, do your own work.

Hope boo hoo, we are just big meany nastys aren’t we. No one swore at you, saying people can fuck off if they want to moan at us for our vote is not swearing at you. Nobody will hand you tissues here. The thread says it’s for people spoiling votes. No one has encouraged anyone to spoil, no one has berated others for not spoiling, and we have all welcomed anyone genuinely discussing why they aren’t or being open about how they are on the fence. We just don’t gaf about those trying to manipulate us by appealing to our female socialisation to be nice and please others and put everyone else above our own self interests. Which is really not surprising in a feminist chat board. Go gas light some where else, go start your own thread or join a hundred other ones that are about who you are voting for. Do so out with feminist chat and you have a decent chance some will fall for your manipulation.

And really, people can swear all they fucking like in posts, it’s not censored here because we are not babies. Swearing in posts isn’t swearing at you unless it’s clearly directed towards you, mostly it’s just spewing out frustration. I’m sure you are actually capable of deciphering the difference but if not just to help you out, me saying fuckety fucking fucknut is just swearing, not swearing at you, so no need to cry that the meany nasty women won’t bend over backwards to hold your hand.

90schic · 12/12/2019 20:35

But spoiling does NOTHING. Your not making a stand... your making a mockery of something people fought and died for.... it’s like the least feminist thing you could of done. It’s just plain stupid. Sorry but it is.

90schic · 12/12/2019 20:36

Writing childish shit on a ballot card. Don’t waste people’s time like? If you don’t want to vote then don’t

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:37

I haven’t told anyone how to vote I have just disagreed with spoiling papers. I haven’t disagreed with why people have done it

It was your tone, and your suggestions that people were being " idiots" and so on......it was provocative. Obviously you have not frequented threads on this board before. You saw on pop up somewhere about the election - and jumped in. Easy to do. But also easy to come in far too heavy handed and without awareness of context.

This board is regularly trolled, and when a new poster's first post is to suggest you are cowardly and idiotic, it tends not to go down too well.

People also put in a lot of time to trying to explain......

90schic · 12/12/2019 20:37

Someone has to shift through your bollucks to get to the actual votes. You know... the ones deciding the fate of the country?

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:38

Writing childish shit on a ballot card. Don’t waste people’s time like? If you don’t want to vote then don’t

Look, here's another one......see what I mean?

Squeakycheese · 12/12/2019 20:39

I spoilt my vote and am glad that I did it. I've never done it before and hope that I won't have to again.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:39

Someone likes the sound of their own voice. So much they have to say the same thing twice.

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 20:39

Your comments are duly noted. Read the thread.

Dangerfloof · 12/12/2019 20:40

group of highly intelligent, hugely informed women

Melroses · 12/12/2019 20:40

*god all these scoldy people
it's total non thinking virtue signalling

Like the bloody cervical smear police.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:41

Funny how the OP was just about going along and spoiling your paper. Nothing about the reasons why or what it would mean. Just like it’s was something fun to do

It's only funny when you are totally unaware of the context and background to the thread. This board has been discussing the election for many weeks; organising actions; organising campaigns; and so on.....

Thelnebriati · 12/12/2019 20:42

Its possible that you believe you will never be in prison or a psychiatric ward, or a DV shelter, so don't think they or the women that need them matter as much as far more important, more 'properly political' things.

GCAcademic · 12/12/2019 20:42

@90schic

Stop posting the questions that have already been asked and answered on the thread a million fucking times. I'm sure you're able to read, yes? And not so lazy that you expect people to do your work for you?

Melroses · 12/12/2019 20:43

This has been the best ballot for me. After living here for over 25 years, I have finally used my ballot paper for something that I agree with Smile

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 20:45

Yes tired it is classic DARVO. And thank you for making me think of Jennifer Freyd because she is a fucking exceptional woman who stood up and spoke out against the masses.

For anyone who doesn’t know Jennifer is the daughter of some of the people who came up with false memory syndrome (who also have known links to NAMBLA). Her father was abusing her and her parents along with other pedophile parents formed false memory syndrome society and petitioned for it to be accepted to the dsm despite big fat zero studies that backed it. Thankfully science won out and they were thrown out of every psychological and psychiatric association world wide and false memory syndrome has continuously been refused entry to the dsm and icd. But it did catch on socially, was even featured in the likes of law and order as if it were real, and it’s still used to silence women today. Jennifer went off to study psychology and actually found prove of how children do forget trauma and remember later, she found the neural pathways that let us do this. Her book betrayal trauma theory is well worth reading. There are a lot of parallels around the rise trans ideology and the rise of false memory syndrome so it’s nice you mention DARVO, as it’s Jennifer Freyd who came up with that and was campaigning to raise awareness of it decades before me too and times up became the in thing.

PJsatMidday · 12/12/2019 20:45

If I came onto a thread with the user name of "Get Brexit Done", and started hectoring and insulting people about spoiling their ballot, for whom do you think I would be advocating? The greater good of society? You are clearly advocating for Labour.

I've asked this question several times, but I will ask it again. Given the choice of voting Tory or spoiling my ballot, what would you rather I do?

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:46

If this whole reason why had been more widely spread before today maybe more people would have understood and done the same

There are many and individual reasons for spoiling.....

However, what you, perhaps, were not aware of was the centrality of this board to the gender critical movement. You'd be quite amazed at who looks in and contributes here. It is one of the only places to meet and discuss - because speech and discussion is, literally, forbidden elsewhere .Including in all of our political parties. It is profoundly undemocratic.

PencilsInSpace · 12/12/2019 20:46

Just got back from spoiling my ballot.

I opted for a long diagonal line through all the boxes and wrote:

NONE

NO SELF ID

Then an AHF sticker, and underneath:

WOMEN MATTER

GCAcademic · 12/12/2019 20:47

I also note that none of the people that have turned up to scold us disappointing women for not voting from our menu of misogynistic candidates in order to stop people from dying are on the thread where a woman is trying to get her son to vote. There, it's all "it's a democracy", "he's entitled to do what he likes with his vote", "you have no right to tell him what to do". I wonder why?

BeyondVotesForFlube · 12/12/2019 20:47

It's quite simple - if there were a "none of the above" box, spoilers would check that.

As there isn't, they have to improvise.

It's not childish, stupid, literally murdering suffragettes or any of the other hyperbole that the ploppers are claiming. It is a legitimate protest to having no available option. You all keep saying you're confused - what I'm confused about is how you don't understand this?

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 20:48

Stop posting the questions that have already been asked and answered on the thread a million fucking times. I'm sure you're able to read, yes? And not so lazy that you expect people to do your work for you

I think some people navigate here thinking it is like twitter, or similar - just random comments without proper understanding of wider context.

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 20:48

Longer than that Bernard, I’ve spoiled ballots several time due to self ID. I have done previously for other reasons, but I’ve sent several postal ballot back over this and I’m pretty sure I read about spoiling with the penis stickers first here (possibles Twitter though).

PencilsInSpace · 12/12/2019 20:48

Oh are we being told off?

BeyondVotesForFlube · 12/12/2019 20:50

Yep pencils, naughty naughty women. Should probably stick to sucking cock for socialism and making tea.