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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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Backinthecloset123 · 30/11/2019 06:31

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Datun · 30/11/2019 13:31

The GRA isn't about to get repealed any time soon so the only purpose it serves is creating hostility between feminists and trans people.

Again (and i'm not sure you're quite getting this), if stating the definition of woman is causing hostility, it needs to be stated more, not less.

Her entire reason for stating it was to expose the hostility that it causes.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/11/2019 13:32

If reality makes some people feel hostile then that's an issue for them to work on, honestly.

Datun · 30/11/2019 13:34

It's so telling.

The definition of woman creates hostility. The definition of man is shocking and controversial.

So don't do it. And certainly don't do it if you've got platinum blonde hair.

SapphosRock · 30/11/2019 13:36

And certainly don't do it if you've got platinum blonde hair. ... alongside a neo Nazi because you just cannot be taken seriously. Even if you do apologise!

Datun · 30/11/2019 13:41

alongside a neo Nazi because you just cannot be taken seriously.

I thought she was shocking and controversial?

But now she can't be taken seriously?

She a chameleon, that Posie Parker.

SapphosRock · 30/11/2019 13:43

Datun entirely possible to be both. Like Katie Hopkins.

TinselAngel · 30/11/2019 13:43

Her scary 1950s housewife persona doesn't help her image as a feminist ally either imo. A big like how the masculine TRAs wielding truncheons doesn't make me sympathetic to the TRA cause.

A woman being feminine is the same as males brandishing weapons? Hang on while I look up those rules of misogyny.

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 13:43

At least most trans activists are actually transgender

For every "trans" transactivist, there are at least ten Aunt Lydia nun enforcers for the new religion and another ten Wokebeard dudebros.

Almost all, by the way, middle class and white, before we have the inevitable segue into that one.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/11/2019 13:46

So, a woman who says she's not a feminist can't talk about women's rights because she has too feminine a persona/a look that's a bit retro?

And here I was thinking that women's rights were something all women needed, regardless of what they look like.

Datun · 30/11/2019 13:46

It's amazing how someone who can't be seriously generates so much interest on here.

The people who disagree with her, and can't take her seriously know far more about it than I do.

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 13:47

Her entire reason for stating it was to expose the hostility that it causes

And look no further than this thread for evidence. Prima facie!

Cascade220 · 30/11/2019 13:47

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/11/2019 13:49

A lot of the most toxic TRAs aren't trans themselves, our least favorite doctor being an excellent example.

GenderfreeJoe · 30/11/2019 13:51

Posie is fab ♥️

SapphosRock · 30/11/2019 13:52

Re the scary 1950s housewife persona - if you put yourself in the public eye in the way she has done then image does matter. Look at Danielle Muscato - their image really hasn't helped with the cause they are trying to promote and it's the same the other way with Posie.

theflushedzebra · 30/11/2019 13:53

And Posie is a woman and mother, both of which drive her activism.

Whatever she calls herself she's a considerably more principled feminist than many who call themselves 'GC'. She puts women and girls (all children in fact) front and centre in everything she does.

Totally agree.

I find women on the FWR board disparaging a woman activist who created 'Standing For Women' as a scary 1950s housewife persona truly disheartening to read.

testing987654321 · 30/11/2019 13:55

Her scary 1950s housewife persona doesn't help her image as a feminist ally either imo. A big like how the masculine TRAs wielding truncheons doesn't make me sympathetic to the TRA cause.

A woman being feminine is the same as males brandishing weapons? Hang on while I look up those rules of misogyny.

Good point Tinsel. On the one hand we have a woman pointing out that it's not possible to change sex, occasionally taking the piss out of male people dressed in traditionally women's clothing and who speaks to anyone who asks about her views.

On the other we have biologically male people who post pictures of themselves carrying.baseball bats in a threatening manner specifically to intimidate women.

Yep, any reasonable person would see that as two sides of the same coin.

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 13:55

You know what?

There are feminists in the "GC" movement that, on a personal level, I really don't like. Dislike, even. Cross the road to avoid talking to, even.

Do you know who they are? I doubt you do. Why don't you?

Because I don't care if she's sufficiently nice. I don't care if she and I are simpatico. I don't care to whom she speaks. I don't care which other feminists she's feuding with. I care what she says and my criteria for approving what she says is putting women and girls ahead of men, regardless of identification.

That's it. Fin.

I think they call it feminism. Perish the very thought.

Datun · 30/11/2019 13:55

Posie is not trying to promote a cause that involves the way she looks.

Posie's cause is about women's Right to define themselves as a biological sex and for the rise in children identifying as trans to be thoroughly investigated.

What's her hair got to do with that?

WeDieAndSeeBeautyReign · 30/11/2019 13:57

Her scary 1950s housewife persona doesn't help her image as a feminist ally either imo

What a weird post. Presumably SapphosRock thinks she is a feminist but she's making posts criticising another woman's appearance?

A big [sic] like how the masculine TRAs wielding truncheons doesn't make me sympathetic to the TRA cause

Even weirder- SapphosRock thinks TRAs wielding truncheons are as scary as feminine women? Seriously weird.

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 13:57

Re the scary 1950s housewife persona - if you put yourself in the public eye in the way she has done then image does matter.

We don't all accept the tyranny of capitalist neoliberalism branding, love. Christ on a bike - she's too right wing but she should pay more attention to branding? Desperate.

koshkat · 30/11/2019 13:57

Her scary 1950s housewife persona doesn't help her image as a feminist ally either imo

Fucking hell. Confused

nauticant · 30/11/2019 13:59

It is simply hilarious that some posters are taking issue with PP's obviously feminine appearance. Now that's something you just couldn't make up.

Datun · 30/11/2019 13:59

Posie having blonde hair is interfering with her right to define women as a biological sex?

In the same way that Danielle Muscato being a male born individual is interfering with their right to claim they have changed sex?

Have I got that right ???

iamright17 · 30/11/2019 13:59

Sapphos.
Parent here who would like to contribute as you seem to have forgotten us. Why does one have to be a feminist. My husband wants to protect women and children. He particularly wants to protect me and our kids. He also is a dad who knows trans ideology has set his child on course for lifelong medication that has not been researched on young people. He also is a dad that wants to stop his child from mutilating their body.

I am a mum and feel the same. Being a feminist is not prerequisite for standing up and voicing concerns. There are plenty of us parents who are thankful for Posie who wants to protect kids.
She gets my vote on this one.