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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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Backinthecloset123 · 30/11/2019 06:31

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koshkat · 30/11/2019 13:59

I think that Posie is fucking brilliant - some of the strange posters on this thread...not so much.

Cascade220 · 30/11/2019 14:00

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koshkat · 30/11/2019 14:02

Remembered that I have highlighted long blonde hair - does this mean that I can no longer stand up against men invading women's spaces? Can I not be a feminist?

How in holy FUCK have some women got themselves here? On fucking MN of all places?

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 14:02

Posie! Hope you're reading! You need a brand consultant because you're just not getting it right, dear! Your MO and your style don't match! It's not about women's rights or child protection! Silly Posie! It's about your USP!

Dear goddess, I've read some shite on here but this really does take the biscuit.

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WeDieAndSeeBeautyReign · 30/11/2019 14:03

SapphosRock
Re the scary 1950s housewife persona - if you put yourself in the public eye in the way she has done then image does matter. Look at Danielle Muscato - their image really hasn't helped with the cause they are trying to promote and it's the same the other way with Posie

Do you think that if you keep on repeating scary 1950s housewife your witless and derogatory phrase will stop being witless and derogatory.

You are criticising another woman for the way she dresses. I cannot think of a less feminist action.

koshkat · 30/11/2019 14:03

If we were all a bit more like Posie, a bit more bolshy, confident and fearless, we'd have probably made more headway

Yes. This. Lib fems are doing women great harm and we need to counter it.

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Datun · 30/11/2019 14:06

It's like some kind of magic key. You mention the hair - you can't move for masks on the floor.

Datun · 30/11/2019 14:07

Ponders why...

DanaPhoenix · 30/11/2019 14:07

Whoop...there it is The usual assumption that SAHM’s are 1950’s housewives.
Do I agree with everything Posie says? No. Because I’m completely capable of forming my own opinions. Shocking I know.

I have had to deal with this shit for, well so long that frankly I can’t really remember when it started. Oh I’m fully aware of the privilege I have as a SAHM. I’m also fully aware that people make an enormous amount of assumptions about us. I get why Posie doesn’t identify as a feminist, I really do. Because it’s an endless amount of snide remarks and put downs, mostly from other women. Who have no idea of what the actual day to day life is in our homes. No idea of what historic difficulties may have bought us to this point. Most importantly no idea what we are actually doing in our community.

Thank you so very, very much to the actual feminists on here that have an understanding that women are allowed to CHOOSE their path in life.

I could give endless examples of how from a young age I have spoken out against being mistreated by males. Perhaps that would make me a feminist? I suspect some people would declare that it’s an example of my upbringing by a single mother living in poverty.

Maybe the fact that my teenage sons are respectful of women and call out other guys when they’re being dickheads? Or maybe when they’ve declared their Mum a badass and suggested people don’t “fuck” with me.

Sure, I left school early, despite excellent grades, poverty for the win. Yes I could perhaps spend my time studying feminist prose. I have other things to do...bad feminist? Yes. Bad woman? Not fucking likely. Peace out.

theflushedzebra · 30/11/2019 14:07

I'll have to work on perfecting my scary housewife persona now. Might scare some TRAs on the street Grin

And a lot of TRAs are not transgender themselves. An awful lot are bearded members of Momentum/LibDem/Green Party who just love to have a chance to call women witches "terfs."

Some of them are women just want to trip over themselves to show how kind, and accepting and progressive they are. Some of them are neoliberalist proponents of Queer Theory - with either no understanding, or no care, of the damage this will do to women and children's rights and safety.

nauticant · 30/11/2019 14:08

If the 1950s look is forbidden, what is the correct appearance for women to adopt if they're going to campaign for women's rights?

Dungarees? Gileadean attire? Something else?

koshkat · 30/11/2019 14:09

Great post Dana

LangCleg · 30/11/2019 14:12

Dungarees? Gileadean attire? Something else?

I'm wearing a Chelsea FC onesie. As I do on the regular. It's a cast-off of one of my sons. Is that allowed?

SisterWendyBuckett · 30/11/2019 14:17

Posie is magnificent.

Terfykins · 30/11/2019 14:30

I think Posie is brilliant.
But even more, I think she’s necessary.
You need more than one kind of person to win a war.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/11/2019 14:32

I'm not quite sure how to explain that feminism is not a brand, a women's rights in a vaguer sense even less so. Women campaigning for women's rights can look any way because rights are a thing all women need. The idea that a woman particularly focused on the rights of girls would have what is being rather repulsively described as a "scary 50s housewife persona" - are housewives not meant to care about the rights of their daughters, or their own? Why is that persona scary to you anyway?

If there's to be a uniform that must be adopted in order to campaign for the protection of women and girls then the least you can do is tell us what it is. How else are we meant to obey you?

Hmm
LangCleg · 30/11/2019 14:35

I'm not quite sure how to explain that feminism is not a brand

I'm still boggling. Honestly! Absolutely fucking hopeless.

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 14:35

Every large war is fought on many fronts.

In activist effort in the US that kept NIxon from launching a nuclear strike on Hanoi and that eventually ended the war, people campaigned from various directions, all the way from radicals who bombed weapons labs to people like Posie, middle-class parents who didn’t want their sons to die in what they saw as as a purposeless war.

If only the people with the correct ideological understanding of American imperialism had protested, the US might still be waging war on Hanoi. The fact there is NOT a wide range of people now protesting the American war machine is why the US remains in a permanent state of war.

The war on women is no different. Sadly, the way things are in the US, this particular battle against transactivism’s intent to erase sex-based rights for American women will not be led by the left but by the right.

That’s is not a comment on the right but tells much about the perfidy of what passes for left in America as well as the extremely stifling media environment and insistence on conformity in the US.

Posie’s efforts in America have made enormous difference to American girls and women. She has broken through a thick, concrete wall of silence. It’s a shame no left-wing feminist has made or could have made, so far, such a difference.

BovaryX · 30/11/2019 14:35

Her scary 1950s housewife persona doesn't help her image as a feminist ally either imo

Hmm. A gratuitous personal attack? She can present herself however she pleases and if it’s retro glam? Good for her. I have seen her interview on Triggernometry. She’s articulate, she’s able to present a coherent argument and she doesn’t suffer fools gladly. We are living in an era where freedom of speech is under serious onslaught and PP is prepared to challenge the increasingly Orwellian status quo. Good for her

BickerinBrattle · 30/11/2019 14:38

I want to also say that Posie has shown enormous courage. Don’t forget that early on in her campaign, she was interviewed under caution by the police, warned not to leave the U.K., she was doxxed, and the names and faces of her children posted online.

And none of that daunted her.

Datun · 30/11/2019 14:39

Also is a 1950s housewife scary now? Bit of a turnaround, isn't it? I thought they were usually invoked as being downtrodden and compliant.

I think what gets me about this type of narrative is the attempt at some kind of faux alignment, that if only posie was different, she would be better for 'the cause'.

If only she stopped having the strong opinions, and stop getting platformed here there and everywhere, and stopped getting 300,000 views, because she is so shocking, and controversial.

That would be so much better for the cause. If only she would bloody shut up, then we can all completely agree how brilliant she is.

Silly, effective, opinionated, controversial, loud, popular, listened to, Posie. Mucking it all up for everyone.

BovaryX · 30/11/2019 14:40

I want to also say that Posie has shown enormous courage. Don’t forget that early on in her campaign, she was interviewed under caution by the police, warned not to leave the U.K., she was doxxed, and the names and faces of her children posted online

Wow. That really says a great deal about the people who are targeting her

littlbrowndog · 30/11/2019 14:41

Yes exactly bickerin

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