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ROGD Parent Support

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iamright17 · 16/11/2019 00:34

This is a new thread for parents who are experiencing the phenomenon of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria in their tweens/ teens/ young adults.

Sadly we are being watched and our words taken out of context so please be careful what you say.

I want the UK and beyond to listen to parents. Even if it is deemed as anecdotal for now, it is important for someone to acknowledge our perspective. The trans narrative is trying to undermine our credibility.

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janeskettle · 21/01/2020 21:38

Yes, great video.

And agreed, for parents, not for the GD kid.

BessyK · 21/01/2020 22:49

The latest video from Benjamin A Boyce. Renegotiating womanhood- a detrans story with Laura. Parents of ROGD daughters might find this interesting. Laura was sexually harassed as a 12 year old.

janeskettle · 21/01/2020 23:07

Thanks Bessy

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2020 01:48

There is so much now.

(I actually like Blair White a lot, even though I don't agree with her politics!)

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2020 01:49

Sorry Blaire

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2020 02:35

I am sorry if this is very heavy but it is very interesting.

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2020 02:36

I also think it is very hard for us as parents/aunties/relatives to persuade our young people and I think there may be moments when people who should not transition will know this.

Leoaica Motanelul mentions ROGD in her video that I just posted.

I hope things will go well with her. Thanks

Agrona · 22/01/2020 03:45

So happy at this news janeskettle! I agree hobbies are great. especially if they are not based around screens.

janeskettle · 22/01/2020 04:24

agree hobbies are great. especially if they are not based around screens

Yep.

There's something particularly mental-health promoting about creative hobbies too; making things, not just consuming things.

SisterWendyBuckett · 22/01/2020 13:43

Great to hear an update Janes.

And what a moment it must have been to share that mother/daughter time with your girl. You must be so proud of how far she's come.

janeskettle · 22/01/2020 21:23

ROGD peeps:

Unless and until I get some clarification from a (female) mod that no posters here are having a 'special eye' kept on them by mods at the request of MN posters who don't believe in ROGD and think we're all abusive cunts, I'm not going to post further on this thread.

Please feel free to message me directly; I'm happy to share my email with any of the parents who've shared here up to now.

Best of luck; if I receive a reassuring clarification, I'll post it here too. Not holding my breath, sadly.

iamright17 · 22/01/2020 21:49

I’ve just messaged them too as equally concerned about that janes. Great news about your kids. We are right you see. We know our kids.

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BessyK · 22/01/2020 21:58

Under his eye.

iamright17 · 23/01/2020 13:07

Not sure what this means but obviously someone trying to police us. I have requested some of my posts to get deleted as can’t trust this.

“The Monitors” came from the Vice article linked earlier, as that is how the people doing this reporting describe it themselves:

...Christine, the mother of a trans child and also part of the network that regularly monitors Mumsnet. (Christine’s name has been changed for privacy reasons.)

Perhaps “the Network” would be clearer? Or “the Christines”?

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janeskettle · 23/01/2020 23:30

Have you had an email to clarify iamright17?

I have had one about another issue; the mod said they were snowed under with emails and to be patient. I thought maybe yours might be ahead of mine in the queue ?

I am a bit bothered by Justine's description of FWR as 'aggressive orthodoxy' and wonder if that will open the gates to pro-child transition posters being allowed to post on this thread ?

So many questions, so little clarity.

iamright17 · 24/01/2020 02:18

I did get a reply to my concerns. I will Pm you tomorrow about this as it is very late now in the Uk. I can reassure you that they reassured me but I still asked for deletions of my post as I just wanted to be doubly sure that any TRA’s on mumsnet would not try to use my data. Personally I don’t give a toss about me. I just don’t want them stalking my child which I think they would as they have no boundaries. The Glitter family that tries to steal our kids by promising them the pot of gold. We know it’s sh** but our impressionable kids do not.

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iamright17 · 24/01/2020 02:30

What I should have said is that not only is it late in Uk but I’m just back from a night out with a friend who listened to me ranting over a bottle of wine so I think best to discuss this when not under the influence. Although to be fair to me this is when I am most honest.

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janeskettle · 24/01/2020 04:58

OK, no worries, talk to you tomorrow iamright

iamright17 · 24/01/2020 23:25

Janes. I’m out again tonight. Will try tomorrow. My escape is being with my friends who thankfully are in my corner.

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janeskettle · 25/01/2020 00:54

No worries

iamright17 · 25/01/2020 23:25

Janes. I’m dealing with a new stage at the minute. I’m very distraught. Will get back to you regarding emails as soon as. Pretty much not functioning well sadly. Hoping for hope and peace. Don’t think I will get it

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TinseLANGel · 26/01/2020 00:13

FlowersFlowersFlowers all.

I know we all feel shaken by Lang's banning, but let me reassure you that MN are very supportive of support threads like these.

iamright17 · 26/01/2020 00:53

Yes that’s the impression I get too.

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iamright17 · 26/01/2020 01:24

I told Mumsnet how influential LangCleg was in helping me with this. They have no idea how much a voice can help us parents. The person who fights for us has been banned. Why? Because they care. LangCleg did not have any skin in this. She did not have to go through the pain but she tried to help us even though she probably knew she would be held to account. Shame on mumsnet for not seeing the good. They listened to the reporters who had to be out to get her banned. They banned her because 50 odd reports were made. They did not consider the 500 people or more who needed her advice. That is the problem. Mumsnet should have said but the majority don’t agree. The majority didn’t report her posts so it stands to reason they all agree. It’s not that I don’t think Mumsnet is supportive. I just think they didn’t support the people who make a difference. All of us who are going through this need supported. Mumsnet has taken that support away. In reality, they have forgotten the aims of their website. They have lost the audience they are trying to help. They see a woman who has our back as wrong. If this is true what hope do we have. Where is the support. Is it just we will support you as long as you align to our rules or is it we will allow other people on this site to support you even if we disagree.? Is Mumsnet conditional on you say what I tell you is acceptable and if you don’t then off you go? If this is true then I do not want to be part of a support organisation that only allows me to get support on their terms. I want a variety of perspectives. I do not want a controlled response.

I am now reporting my post to ensure it is read by the moderators.
Please report this too

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janeskettle · 26/01/2020 03:46

I'm sorry to hear that, iamright