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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder · 12/08/2019 13:44

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/09/2019 16:08

IIRC it was pretty much that but with fewer examples.

And it seems that whatever-it-was that was delete worthy, you got that as the paraphrase has gone too now.

2BthatUnnoticed · 11/09/2019 00:16

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TruthOnTrial · 11/09/2019 03:41

These 3 strikes and your gone rules only apply to some.

I saw many of a posters posts deleted recently and they're still posting. So I dont know how it works, but surely you will have received notifications?

Its bizarre how some posts can be deleted at night but others ignored!

Ive reported a rather grim spam ad thats still sitting there.

TruthOnTrial · 11/09/2019 03:43

Its an account deletion, so no more posting at all, on anything.

Noone will know you've gone. Do post soon so we know you haven't!

GirlDownUnder · 11/09/2019 06:03

2B I can only see one deletion of yours. I’m well confused now Confused see

You’re one of the most benign posters on here, so fook knows what’s going on.

My thread in site stuff has probably died a death by now (I haven’t been to see the body) but MN have not updated me, so we’re no where closer to having any control of our deletions.

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JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/09/2019 07:04

These 3 strikes and your gone rules only apply to some.

Yes absolutely. It’s mostly focused on FWR regulars too. I didn’t realise I even had an initial strike. I’m at the point where it’s not worth commenting. One of the emails I got warning me not to tell any of you was seriously bizarre. When MN say they’re one of the only platforms that let us talk about this, you really have to ask yourself how much better they are than Twitter or Facebook. The way they moderate here is as unfair as any other platform- except Spinster!

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 11/09/2019 07:40

One of the emails I got warning me not to tell any of you was seriously bizarre

Really?

Oh they can get knotted with that idea, i ever get banned I’m taking out adverts!

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/09/2019 07:58

Yup. Different username. I was only allowed back if I agreed not to disclose the conversation or email exchange we had. I didn’t agree to. I’ll probably get banned now but I don’t care! I’m done with this farce

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 11/09/2019 08:08

Goodness

We’ll have to set up another thread for roll call

A roll call thread was started ages ago wasn’t it...bet its half empty now

TinselAngel · 11/09/2019 08:18

We’ll have to set up another thread for roll call

Great idea

Floisme · 11/09/2019 08:41

I didn’t see your original post 2B but I saw your paraphrase on here that’s now gone and cannot see what rules were broken.

WrathoSWhlttIeKIop · 11/09/2019 09:05

One of the emails I got warning me not to tell any of you was seriously bizarre

That sounds like a bit of a knee jerk reaction to me.
They'd do well to remember some of us had a bit of a fright when their software had a glitch.

I was one of the few affected, I could have passed on the details I had to someone else.

I didn't because I'm not that sort of person.

MargueritaBlue · 11/09/2019 09:22

Should have left it to Lass, she's a skilled contrarian on other topics. With the difference that when she disagrees with the majority view on FWR there's usually something worth thinking about

Thank you. MN however disagree and like Jessica I have received an email so I am closing my account.

LangCleg · 11/09/2019 09:26

MN however disagree and like Jessica I have received an email so I am closing my account.

Wait, what?

LangCleg · 11/09/2019 09:29

Fuxxake, MNHQ.

Lass/Marguerita and I disagree on almost everything except porn and prostitution. We've had a good few snotty exchanges hereabouts.

What she is not is a bloody community disruptor. She's an MNer.

What happened to protecting a community?

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 11/09/2019 09:39

Oh no don’t go marguerita

Its not fair when all the good people go!!

Would bribery work?

I only have pretend wine and cake but i can arrange for some real stuff!!!

Was it that stupid fucking skirt thread

littlbrowndog · 11/09/2019 09:40

Why would lass get an email

What is going on
And why is Jessica being told not to tell anyone

ErrolTheDragon · 11/09/2019 09:45

Whaaaat?ShockConfused

Seriously, WTAF?

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 11/09/2019 09:45

Right ive got to go out

No one leave til i get back!

ErrolTheDragon · 11/09/2019 09:47

The only people I can imagine wanting to get rid of Lass are the pro porn, pro women's exploitation lobby.

Floisme · 11/09/2019 09:52

What am I reading? FWR just wouldn’t be the same without Lass/Marguerita. Her posts are like a bucket of icy water - they make me stop, splutter and then think.

If you really are leaving Lass/Marguerita then I’m very sorry and I’ll miss your posts.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/09/2019 10:13

MargueritaBlue

You and I also disagree a lot but you are not worthy of a ban and I think it’s disgusting too. Genuinely hope to see you on Spinster. I am having great conversations there- JessSweetValleyHigh

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 11/09/2019 10:18

Please don't leave Lass- your posts regarding surrogacy and prostitution are so, so valued here.

Cascade220 · 11/09/2019 10:36

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OvaHere · 11/09/2019 10:40

I second what Lang and Spartacus said.

Lass/Marguerita has long time standing around here.

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