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Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder · 12/08/2019 13:44

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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Yeahnahyeah · 12/08/2019 22:33

I quietly read the whole of the last thread, and oh my, did I learn a lot. A LOT.

Thankyou all you patient posters who opened my eyes. Flowers

Barracker · 12/08/2019 22:42

AnotherAdultHumanFemale
Yes!

Bunbury is a lovely little village in Cheshire.
It was the location for the ITV series 'Home Fires'

bunburyvillage.info/home-fires/

Iminthewrongstory · 12/08/2019 22:48

Oh! Is it that Bunbury? I thought it was Algernon's imaginary friend from Importance of Being Earnest. I think I'll imagine both.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bunburying

galaxybrain · 12/08/2019 22:52

Ello.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 12/08/2019 23:03

I’m sad the thread has gone because there was some lovely writing by MNers, some excellent jokes and more history of our glorious inspiration, Germaine Bunbury.

In some ways it’s instructive of the way women’s culture disappears. It was a small thing, but it was our own and now we start over. Women, by necessity, must play the long game.

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 23:07

Thanks OP. Vicky and others who missed it, someone came to Bunbury and linked in a thread on a different board because they were very angry that those posters were discussing matters in a (morning of

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 23:19

Oops sorry, accidentally posted too soon. MNHQ I hope that brief comment is ok, I won’t say more. If I’d missed it I would have been quite bewildered, that’s all.

Brew to moderators and all. Onwards!

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 13/08/2019 00:46

I love that Bunbury is a place (exactly the kind of cosy village you'd expect it to be), a person and a noun describing an activity! Fabulous!

TheInebriati · 13/08/2019 00:53

SpartacusAutisticus has a lovely leather bound book and all I've got is this disreputable 'spoon/whisk'.

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 13/08/2019 01:15

I really want to live in 1940s Bunbury now, and wear those cool 1940s outfits. And bake cakes for village fetes and go cycling and have picnics by the river.

2BthatUnnoticed · 13/08/2019 01:24

The OP is really helpful, especially (to me) do not name check the sealion. I thought “Bunbury” was from Oscar Wilde! That’s my new thing learned for the day Grin

barelove · 13/08/2019 03:16

I miss our crazeee thigh friends, though

Hmm I think it was their organ bucket that attracted all those blue bottles. Putrid c*cks.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/08/2019 08:46

Germaine Bunbury's name was inspired by Wilde.

LangCleg · 13/08/2019 08:49

It's a play on both Germaine Greer and Bunbury - the fictitious character in Importance of Being Earnest (Bunbury doesn't really exist, even in the play).

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 13/08/2019 09:11

I always understood it referred to Bunbury from Wilde's play The Importance of Being Ernest. The village is an added bonus.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/08/2019 09:23

The history is in here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3321127-public-service-announcement?reverse=1

VickyEadie · 13/08/2019 10:20

I thought “Bunbury” was from Oscar Wilde!

Indeed. As Germaine Bunbury's biographer and the curator of her work, I should mention that she was (apparently) related to the Bunbury in Oscar Wilde's work - Wilde liked to include gay characters in his plays and Bunbury in 'Importance...' is a reference to Quentin Bunbury, whom Wilde shared a landing at Magdalen college, Oxford. Bunbury was well-known at Oxford for his habit of carrying his stuffed badger, Alphonse, around with him.

It's rumoured that he and Wilde were more than friends and letters in the Germaine Bunbury collection between Germaine and her cousin Sackville West (alleged son of Quentin Bunbury) discuss this notion. Sackville angrily disputes this, believing completely that Sackville was, indeed, his biological father and that, therefore, Bunbury could not possibly have been gay.

LangCleg · 13/08/2019 10:38

LOLs Vicky. It's like a biographical Bunbury version of Mornington Crescent.

VickyEadie · 13/08/2019 11:02

LangCleg

Indeed so. I invite others who have special knowledge of or information of interest relating to Germain Bunbury to post it here. Her biography is a mammoth task...

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/08/2019 11:08

Sackville West of course having nothing to do with Sackcloth Vest who is quite a different person and hangs around mostly with the lead abbess of that London convent who do nuns and cake.

VickyEadie · 13/08/2019 11:19

Michelleoftheresistance

Quite - I'm glad you clarified that because I often get mail from Bunbury fans (they call themselves the Bunettes, which would have horrified Germaine) wittering on about Sackcloth Vest and 'Is he by any chance related to Germaine?' etc.

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/08/2019 11:55

Vicky it's all the publicity he gets on radio 4 that does it.

VickyEadie · 13/08/2019 12:17

It is, Michelle. The moment they started having him on 'Just a minute', my inbox filled up.

Weezol · 13/08/2019 13:28

I believe Totteridge and Whetstone have an archive which references Sackville West's 'Tangier Years' including his monograph 'Dallying with Divine Dervishes' which was considered too racy for publication, even by The Yellow Book.

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/08/2019 14:14

Not just a village; a whole festival!

bunburyfestival.com/