Women don't have penises

[jellybean85]

Just in service station and it seems the word is spreading! See next comment for pic

Ereshkigal

Howling with laughter here!

Neither do any of you get to make a decision on behalf of all women.

Oh dear lord. You still don't get it, do you?

No trumps yes. Every. Single. Time.

My consent is not in your gift.

Who do you think you are? 🤣

Are you in every single toilet? What are you, omnipresent?

Are you Mhairi Black? I hope not. A politician should really understand things like why we don't put prisoners in with people who are the demographic of their victim, for example.

Neither do any of you get to make a decision on behalf of all women.

Indeed .. I just make sure that as many women and girls are aware of their legal rights in the face of men who work to subvert those rights.

UK law has decided what are the rights of females in the face of males who work to subvert such rights.

See Gender Recognition Act 2004:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/contents~

See Equality Act 2010:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

Neither do any of you get to make a decision on behalf of all women.

That's the thing about consent. I get to say I don't consent to the violation of my privacy and dignity. You don't have the right to violate it.

I'm not sure why people are 'engaging' with petrolhead. They are not a real person; just an automated troll account.

I guess the only benefit of such 'engagement' comes from the space it permits to clarify one's own thought processes - against the brick wall of non responsiveness.

We are drawing out this person, Datun ... the abuse is becoming more transparent ...

Oh God, now I'm a computer! Hahaha

You guys are killing me.

Spot a Bot: Identifying Automation and Disinformation on Social Media https://medium.com/data-for-democracy/spot-a-bot-identifying-automation-and-disinformation-on-social-media-2966ad93a203

medium.com/data-for-democracy/spot-a-bot-identifying-automation-and-disinformation-on-social-media-2966ad93a203

Sorry hopefully this link works.

This is absolute gold. Please please prove that I'm a computer. That would literally make my year.

This is absolute gold. Please please prove that I'm a computer. That would literally make my year.

You're just a common or garden misogynist. They're everywhere.

Whatever Petrol is or is not, UK civil law rejects Petrol's position, which is that men can enter women's spaces / services etc willy-nilly.

UK civil law confers no such right and explicitly rejects this.

Are you still worried about that poor desperate translady in the pub, or have you given up on them now that it's been clearly demonstrated that they don't have a right to tinkle in the Ladies, Petrol?

I reckon we should be supporting transpeople to campaign for suitable facilities they can use.

Only you seem quite diverted now by playing the 'oooh am I bot? Or just a random troll?' game...

There's no law against having a wee in the women's toilets.

But yes, it is certainly interesting to see a demonstration of the kind of paranoid thinking that drives this thinking. It's like arguing with anti-vaxxers.

And, personally, I have no care for what Petrol is or is not.

My intent is to educate every new and existing female UK user of Mumsnet of her rights in UK Civil law with regard to the interaction of the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and the Equality Act 2010.

So, thanks Petrol, for yet another opportunity so to do.

But the person operating/providing said women's toilets has a perfect right & indeed responsibility to their women customers/service users, to tell you you can't, if you aren't a woman.

If they choose to provide unisex facilities, that's a different matter - albeit one which could probably still be challenged by users demanding single sex facilities?

That's a generic 'you' btw, Petrol - I agree with pp that whether you personally are a woman/man/bot is irrelevant.

And my tshirt says I'm also a woman

I'm sorry you received the wrong t-shirt. Were the cactus ones sold out and they just sent you a random replacement?

I've already said that the landowner can ask you to leave if they choose to. But you can't call the police to have someone kicked out if you feel like it. Because that person hasn't committed a crime because being in the women's toilet is not a criminal offence.

Insults are almost as good as a well thought out constructive argument, aren't they?

How would you know?

If they choose to provide unisex facilities, that's a different matter - albeit one which could probably still be challenged by users demanding single sex facilities?

Indeed. Such a position leaves any proprietor / manager open to a claim of sex discrimination unless both of what were previously the men's and the women's toilets or other facilities are rendered mixed sex.

Beyond that, if staff of such premises are also required to use such facilities there could be a breach of the The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992: regulation 20:

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/20/made