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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans activists occupying MoJ

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OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/03/2019 14:39

mobile.twitter.com/rosiekerrs/status/1103995803511721984

50 activists are reportedly occupying the MoJ as a protest regarding trans women having their own prison wing created for them.

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RedToothBrush · 08/03/2019 16:32

Surely nothing is stopping anyone from becoming a medical student and getting medical training, their being trans certainly should present no barrier?

Well you have to accept biological reality and understand medical ethics and get the concept of evidence based medicine to pass a medical degree.

I think this may be a barrier to some militant trans people who view these as 'transphobic' social constructs and are seeking to actively remove them from trans health.

Also, if you are this ideologically militant then I'm not sure how long you'd last before you were hit by a lawsuit if you did manage to qualify.

Screaming transphobia isn't a defence in a court of law if you are guilty of malpractice or acting without proper consent.

But this are people who don't really give a fuck about consent, given they are screaming about the persecution of Karen flipping White, are they?

For that reason alone, I think they should be kept as far away as possible from a profession that understanding and upholding consent is crucial in. Thus ruling out medicine that way.

Thats not transphobia. Thats safeguarding.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/03/2019 16:35

Well you have to accept biological reality and understand medical ethics and get the concept of evidence based medicine to pass a medical degree.

And sadly they don’t do a one day course in delusion based surgery.

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CountFosco · 08/03/2019 16:35

so half the TW population have been accused of sexual assults

Not accused, they are convicted sex offenders.

littlbrowndog · 08/03/2019 16:41

Saw that banner Karen white has a female penis

Karen white convicted rapist

What to say

Are they so thick

RedDogsBeg · 08/03/2019 16:41

Is the 'Trans Health in Trans Hands' also a demand that they should be given whatever they desire, whenever they desire it, at whatever age from the NHS? (on the grounds that they are so unique and special and their demands must come first in all things).

littlbrowndog · 08/03/2019 16:42

If brain transplants was an option that lot should get that done first

RedDogsBeg · 08/03/2019 16:46

littlebrowndog the 'Karen White' banner and others in BettyduMonde's post are clever photoshops but, of course, reflect exactly what these numpties are actually saying.

crsacre · 08/03/2019 16:47

Jenny Swift murdered a man.
Joanne Latham attempted to murder a woman and two men.
Vicki Thompson assaulted & robbed a mother & daughter.

transcrimeuk.com/

Trans activists occupying MoJ
VickyEadie · 08/03/2019 16:52

I almost wish someone would accede to that 'right for medical training' demand. Of course, to be able to safely carry out procedures and do meaningful scientific research, they'd actually have to pass all the exams, and then do post med-school training as a junior doctor and/or postgrad science qualifications.

Trans people have the same "right" to medical training as everyone else. Get all A* grades at GCSE, take at least 2 sciences at A level, pass all your A levels with at least A grades, do a load of work experience in medically-related settings prior to applying to universities, get a place, do at least 5 years of extraordinarily hard study...

littlbrowndog · 08/03/2019 16:54

Oh right red dog lols
I didn’t see that

But 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️Still

ImFineThankYouSusan · 08/03/2019 16:56

The three names on that banner...

After a quick google;

Violent murderer transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/31/jenny-swift/

Attempted murderer of a female friend who went on to two more attempted murders of fellow inmates transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/30/joanne-latham/

And one who was in for robbery but; "Other witnesses called to give evidence to the inquest insisted Thompson preferred being in a male prison. Alex Boocock, one of her friends in HMP Leeds, said she believed she was “treated as a god” and would not get special treatment in a female prison. Poul Sorensen, then the equalities officer, said he had asked her if she wanted to try to transfer and she had said no, because female prisoners would be “bitchy”.

Thompson was told if she wanted to apply for a transfer she would need to write to the prison governor. She never did." ( www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwj1i6Gc_fLgAhVSFHIKHQqiDDMQzPwBCAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fuk-news%2F2017%2Fmay%2F19%2Fjury-returns-verdict-on-transgender-woman-found-dead-in-male-prison&psig=AOvVaw1RpYRXLy9mnosxjk0zBrOd&ust=1552149395955164 )

Whilst googling though I did see this news story - www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/20/eastwood-park-care-vulnerable-prisoner-inadequate-inquest

Where's her name on the 'feminist' banner?

ClaraMatilda · 08/03/2019 16:59

twitter.com/kelseymxmo/status/1104027137445687296?s=21

I'm confused. How is it in any way 'feminist' to want to abolish prisons? What do these 'anti-carceral' types think should be done about murderers and rapists - let them all go free?

I'd like to see this branch of the TRAs debate the 'anyone who disagrees with us should be sent to a gulag' branch. Halo

Whatsnewpussyhat · 08/03/2019 17:00

It's not about being othered, if they are stuck with only each other then they would be stuck face to face with their own fetish and have no access to other victims.

theOtherPamAyres · 08/03/2019 17:02

Reminds me of their other magnificently successful protest.

Look out for Jess Bradley (purple rucksack) being mown down by the Pipe Band.

Daughterofmabel · 08/03/2019 17:03

littlbrowndog

If brain transplants was an option that lot should get that done first
Grin

BettyDuMonde · 08/03/2019 17:05

Yeah, sorry Littldog - that was my special Mumsnet version 🤪

Here it is again, along with the original:

(I wouldn’t claim it to be good photoshop or ‘owt, just a hasty phone edit while waiting at the school gate!)

Trans activists occupying MoJ
Trans activists occupying MoJ
EarlyModernParent · 08/03/2019 17:12

We have now reached the point where a protest demanding various trans rights works equally well as a parody of a protest demanding various trans rights.

Is there a name for this phenomenon?

DeRigueurMortis · 08/03/2019 17:13

Okay....

So they are protesting about having a wing for trans prisoners.

On International Women's Day.

Carrying banners naming 3 violent offenders.

My lack of sympathy is very palpable.

Katterinaballerina · 08/03/2019 17:16

Trump syndrome?

Tenpole · 08/03/2019 17:18

As Glinner would say - 'down with this sort of thing.'

RedToothBrush · 08/03/2019 17:18

Is there a name for this phenomenon?

Yes.

'Batshittery'

To use the technical term.

ClaraMatilda · 08/03/2019 17:19

Is there a name for this phenomenon?

Poe's Corollary?

FermatsTheorem · 08/03/2019 17:21

Early it already has a name - Poe's law. No parody is so ridiculous that it can't be mistaken for the real thing...

I personally would love to see this protest reported on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, together with details of crimes committed by Karen White, Davina Ayrton, Lauren Jeska, Clare Darbyshire, that rapist in Scotland whose name escapes me. Name the whole bloody lot of them.

Datun · 08/03/2019 17:23

Interesting to see the crimes committed by those they want to be put in a female prison.

Fortunately, only the most lunatic of people would agree.

I like the sound of Karen White being their 'don't persecute me' poster transwoman.

Floisme · 08/03/2019 17:31

I can't wait for Titania McGrath to hear about it.

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