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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How to get school to back off.

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mouseymummy · 04/03/2019 13:01

My 14yo dd is struggling to figure out where she fits in at the moment, she's more of a "tomboy" but will happily put on a playsuit and leggings etc etc.... You know. Usual stuff kids go through as they try to figure out what they like and suits them.

However, she's been hanging around with a girl who wants to transition, her parents are very vocal about it all and buying her a binder and demanding her school etc refer to her as her "true name" as well as other things.

I've explained to my dd that you can be a woman and wear jeans and a flannel shirt, get your hair cut short etc... I'm always wearing jeans and tees. I wear "work boot" style boots as they're comfy and I have a condition that causes my joints to be loose so they're practical too. I've explained that you can be whoever you want to be. She's just not understanding how you can be just yourself. She's very much falling into stereotypes and saying how I dress dd6 in dresses etc... Thus is what she chose when getting dressed that morning, she had jeans on the day before.

School is not helping this.

They've told me that I'm "damaging her" by refusing to take her to the doctors and persueing a "transition" she's 14! I'm seriously waiting for a phone call to social services for not taking her to the doctor as its apparently "emotional abuse" ffs.

Ive ok'd her getting her hair cut short and we went shopping a couple of weeks ago for her to get some clothes she felt comfortable in, she chose leggings, a couple of pairs of jeans, a hoodie and a couple of slogan tees from the mens section in primark (they have a lot better slogan style tees than the women's section)

She's asked for a binder and I've refused. This has all started since school told her she could (her exact quote) "become a proper boy and do all the boy stuff" I asked her what is "boy stuff" she had no answer.

Schools safeguarding team (yes, really) rang me to tell me that they will be referring to her as her "boy name" and when I call up I will have to say I'm the parent of said boy. When I questioned this and asked if they had found anyone else with parental responsibility to OK this as I hadn't (they don't have her dad's number as we're not together and he works away so wouldn't be able to collect her in an emergency) they responded with no but this is what they do when a kid comes and "officially self identifies".

OK, if my kid decides when she's older to crack on n transition, fine, I'll support and be there.

But at 14???? I refuse to be part of it until she is better prepared in life and actually understand what the processes entails etc.

What can I do here??

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ginyogarepeat · 09/03/2019 11:14

Fantastic action. Well done OP!

woollyheart · 09/03/2019 11:15

Well done!

It is quite chilling that they wanted to ban your dd from the lgbt room because she has parents who might raise doubts.

It sounds rather like they don't want any objective people in the room to hear what they say, and possibly question some of their facts. Quite cultish in fact!

BettyDuMonde · 09/03/2019 11:47

Would you and your ex mind popping down to Stonewall/Parliament next? Grin

Well done. Mouse - I agree though, get it written up and held on the school’s file - and keep a copy to distribute to other parents in your area who brush up against similar, so they can say ‘well, in neighbouring school X, this happened’.

You are a shero!

Manderleyagain · 09/03/2019 12:08

Op there's a thread called feminist school governors. You could post there and link to this. There are quite a few governors there and they might have an opinion on how best to bring your governors in on this and make them see. Sorry can't link on my phone.
Well done. Much respect. Bon courage!

TimeLady · 09/03/2019 12:22

Fantastic. Spreading the word, parent to parent, teacher to teacher, will have a groundswell effect, I'm sure.

You're not only protecting your own daughter, you're protecting her peers and those children yet to pass through that school. Pity we don't have a Mumsnet medal, because you deserve one. It can't have been easy.

S1naidSucks · 09/03/2019 12:38

I think this is the one.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3379144-Feminist-school-governor

Italiangreyhound · 09/03/2019 18:36

mouseymummy "School have agreed to stop with the pushing of trans agendas on all kids and have agreed to research and "rethink" their affiliation with mermaids..."

Well done. A briilent outcome.

How is your dd? How does she feel about all this and how is she coping?

Flowers
Italiangreyhound · 09/03/2019 18:37

You are definitely not a mouse!

hdh747 · 09/03/2019 19:21

StarStarStarStarStar That has made my day. I feel so overwhelmed by all this sometimes, you really are the mouse that roared. Love that s1

endchauvinism · 09/03/2019 23:30

Show your daughter how the dictionary defines "male" --
of or denoting the sex that produces small, typically motile gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring.
Case closed. No mention of self identity or even genitalia in there....I feel for you. I really don't know what I'd do in such a tough situation.

Persifleur · 09/03/2019 23:44

And have some more
StarStarStarStarStar
Absolutely brilliant!

mouseymummy · 10/03/2019 11:47

Thank you all ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Trust me, I have been doing some groundwork too, I've told a few people that I had been reported to ss for this and all the details (of course I have made sure that my dd knew and was OK with me doing so as its pushing all her details out there too, I certainly don't want dd to feel that she's the speculation of gossip around the village we live in). Needless to say, there's been a fair few people who are disgusted and I've also posted a few links to fact checking regarding mermaids for the people who have questioned how their association could be wrong. Most have been outraged etc, which in turn has brought up gender self ID, meaning I've been able to explain how it works etc.

I emailed the local Councillor and the local MP too with the details yesterday.

I'm not stopping now, I'm going to making dam sure mermaids aren't allowed back anywhere near the kids at the local school or any other of the schools near by and ive got a few other parents on side over this too.

My dd is fine and happy and healthy, she's rolling her eyes and telling me I'm old again, she's sat playing fortnite and telling me I'm not allowed to floss when she gets a kill 😂 so I told her I would when she gets killed instead 😂. She seems to have perked up in the last few days, so I'm very happy!

Thank you all again!

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JamPasty · 10/03/2019 17:12

I'm well late to this thread, but fucking hell, mouseymummy you rock!

GatherNoMoss · 13/03/2019 11:31

Hi , just checking in to see if your school have been sent a Transgender Trend School Resource pack? Transgender Trend are a group of concerned parents and professionals challenging the trans narrative. It can be sent easily - just log in to their website and request. I've done this anonymously for my local schools, but it can be sent to individuals like yourself to take in. It is the only organisation suggesting the 'watchful waiting' approach rather than the 'affirmation' model your daughter was subject to initially.

thecatsbite · 18/03/2019 14:51

@silentcrow, have you seen this?

www.thoughtfulwokery.com/about

thecatsbite · 18/03/2019 15:01

I just wondered how you felt about it all.

S1naidSucks · 18/03/2019 15:29

It’s a load of bollocks and I wouldn’t let any of their books near my children.

newtlover · 18/03/2019 15:49

well, what do YOU think we will feel about it all?
not rocket sicence, is it

Daughterofmabel · 18/03/2019 15:55

excellent result mousey more power to your elbow!

GerryblewuptheER · 18/03/2019 23:10

You. Are. Incredible!!

And I am thrilled to hear such a positive outcome.

Well done Flowers

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