doxxed - and a bit freaked out

[LoafEater]

So ... yesterday I posted a (what I thought was) a pretty innocuous, mild comment on an article about a news report. The subject is discussed here on another thread.

This morning my boss calls me into her office and shows me an email from a weird looking gmail address with a screenshot of my fb page.
The email was complaining about my transphobic attitude, and how the trans students at the school work in and take care off cannot be safe around me.

Thankfully my boss was as cross about this as I was, but she obviously has to follow protocol and asked me to take my place of work of FB and to delete my post of possible. She replied to the sender with a generic "thanks very much, we will look into it" reply.

We had a long chat around the subject which ended with her suggesting we had a chat with our safeguarding lead in the NY about this when I told her about and she has asked me to get a copy of the transgender trend schools pack. So its all good and I'm not in any bother as I have a sensible boss, but it could have been very different.

I know this has been happening to lots of women, but I have barely put my head over the parapet and this happens. I feel a bit shaken.

May I suggest, use a freebie anon email to comment in the future.

Hate to say this, but since this is what trolls do, it's useful to have another email to blur the trail unless you are commenting in a professional capacity.

Oh, and I'd delete FB entirely (they are simply not secure), but you can set up another account there as well.

I am in disguise here but easily identifiable on FB and Twitter. I'm a GP so we could get aggro but so far haven't. Maybe doctors believing in biology isn't going to be considered a scandalous talking point although I'm glad I'm not in Edinburgh which seems to be disappearing down a woke TWAW rabbit hole.

Just don't do what a troll on here did, and post the same high profile post in your own name and on your dox-proof social media, then be shocked if someone notices

Sorry this has happened to you Loaf it’s something that we hear about too often and is a tactic to cause fear and compliance.
Fortunately it sounds as thought this attempt backfired somewhat, as it gave you the opportunity to have a sensible discussion with your boss and introduce some balanced guidance to your workplace. Nicely handled I say!

Doesn't your place of work have a social media policy?
Must do. As in not mixing your personal political views and comments on social media whilst declaring where you work - blurring the line between personal and professional.
Not exclusive to being a trans issue.

most do

These tactics used to be the province of far right thugs like Redwatch.

And also very popular with feminists who would lobby to get people fired etc for disagreeing with things they said.

I think it's terrible and wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but feminists and SJWs helped write the rulebook for this type of behaviour.

Well, 3rd wave feminists I guess as it's only really a thing of the last few years.

Any receipts for 'feminists' doing this? A quick Google didn't turn up anything other than the accusation made repeatedly by MRA Reddit.

OP

This is a bit of a wake up call for me.
I'm openly GC at work (new role) and I know of one trans ftm employee who I don't work with directly. I also have a brilliant, sensible boss and have expressed concerns in general around children and safeguarding and I do try to peak trans people and I'm so worried about what is happening...but I don't want to lose my job. I think I might watch my mouth a bit more and focus on the single use plastic and palm oil from now on.

I'll keep on fighting the good fight but not at work.

Thank goodness it was dealt with properly OP and thank you for making me think.

OP

I can think of a few:

The feminist Nitasha Tiku got several firefighters fired after notifying their employer of several 'get back in the kitchen' type tweets on their personal social media.

The YouTube personality Thunderfoot (who often publishes videos deconstructing and criticising feminism) had a letter sent to his employer by feminist YouTube personality Jenny Keller which then turned into a shitstorm.

Scientist Tim Hunt was 'forced to quit his job' after feminists crucified him for saying some daft things about women being distracting in laboratories.

Rosetta winter Dr Matt Taylor was also crucified after wearing a t shirt (designed by a female friend) which had a scantily clad cartoon girl on it - calls for his dismissal etc from feminists.

Lawyer Alexander Carter-Silkwas publically shamed by fellow lawyer Charlotte Proudman for commenting in a message that she 'looked stunning' in her LinkedIn photo - a clumsy but well meaning compliment.

There are many more but these are the few I remember from a previous discussion on this. I certainly don't agree with/condone the behaviour of most of the men above, but the whole 'trying to get them sacked for stupid comments' thing is very reminiscent of the TRA behaviour.

Was responding to UC...

Really sorry to hear that happened to you. This kind of aggression (that is what it is) is peculiarly common with trans activists. I am sure the wider public have no idea of how widespread and organised it is. It does have the effect of shutting down debate and a generally chilling of free speech. This is particularly true of the big social media platforms. Feminists such as Meghan Murphy and many other women have been hounded off by these kind of tactics. It is nearly always women on the receiving end.

“And also very popular with feminists who would lobby to get people fired etc for disagreeing with things they said.

I think it's terrible and wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but feminists and SJWs helped write the rulebook for this type of behaviour.“

I have to agree and this is why I would never want to be called a feminist and don’t consider myself one. Feminism birthed this.

You know I heard the womens equality party saying they want equality of outcome not just equality of opportunity. That’s the logical conclusion to the believe that men are women are exactly the same (apart from genitalia) so any differences in outcome must be the result of discrimination and not natural differences/choices. But trans ideology is also logically consistent with social constructivism.

“The YouTube personality Thunderfoot (who often publishes videos deconstructing and criticising feminism) had a letter sent to his employer by feminist YouTube personality Jenny Keller which then turned into a shitstorm.” I know of thunderf00t. He makes some great videos debunking junk science. About a week ago or so the YouTuber Sargon of Akkad (an old fashioned classic liberal and critic of SJW ideology) was kicked off of Patreon essentially depriving him of his livelihood, I believe he’s married with children so he has a family to help support. The reaction on the liberal left was gloating and glee. I suppose the moral of the story is the tactics you use against others can be used against you so we should all support each other’s right to hold and express opinions, fight ideas with debate and keep debate civilised. Everything comes with its opposites, the intersectional identity politics movement is also, I believe, creating its mirror image, the alt right. But they seem to stupid to realise the monster that they risk creating.

"Scientist Tim Hunt was 'forced to quit his job' after feminists crucified him for saying some daft things about women being distracting in laboratories."

I saw a lot of Tweets reacting to this and they were almost all from female scientists who understandably mocked his idiotic sexism by posting photos of themselves looking "distracting" in regulation laboratory safety clothing. Is it overtly feminist of women to stand up for their professional integrity and worth?

bold fail sorry.

I agree that Tim Hunt's comments were pretty ill thought out. In this case, it's possible that he would've struggled to remain in his position having publicly said what he did, but I'm specifically talking about the petitioning to get him sacked.

Mrwall,

I agree that free speech should be protected, even if it offends one's principles.

Some of the things we hear said about men on this board are much worse than Tim Hunt's 'women are distracting' but it seems easier to get away with saying these types of thing about men.

I disagree with many elements of modern feminism but I'd always protect their right to voice their opinion - I'm not sure the reverse is true.

Scientist Tim Hunt was 'forced to quit his job' after feminists crucified him for saying some daft things about women being distracting in laboratories.

Calling out a sexist comment made in public about a man who has used sexism to stall women's careers is not the same as contacting an employer to complain that a woman disagrees with your position and wrote a comment on an article.

Ok, but there are many other examples. The firefighters one is an apt one.

Excuse by a man not about a man, and his job was an unpaid position.