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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker to be interviewed by the police (again) following another complaint from Susie Green

151 replies

WeSeeYou · 18/12/2018 22:02

www.facebook.com/theposieparker

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ChristmasWrappingTheWaitresses · 18/12/2018 22:26

So Susie Green has a very interesting relationship with the police if she's able to keep getting them to interview people like this.

Qcng · 18/12/2018 22:27

What has PP done?

littlbrowndog · 18/12/2018 22:31

Jeez I get my car Brocken into. No action
I can’t bevspecial
Thought the police were struggling

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 22:39

Interesting timing.

current threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452489-Mermaids-given-500-000-by-National-Lottery-Sunday-Times

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454658-recording-of-mermaids-training

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3455052-West-Yorkshire-Police

16/12/2018 Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times article:
'Child sex-change charity Mermaids handed £500,000 by national lottery
An ‘aggressive’ group that says under-16s should be allowed to alter their bodies medically plans to go nationwide'

(extract)
A transgender charity that campaigns for children to be given prohibited sex-change treatment has been awarded £500,000 by the national lottery.

The payment to Mermaids has angered MPs, feminists and women’s organisations, who accuse the charity of bullying doctors, promoting falsehoods and using “emotional blackmail” to pressure parents to support life-changing medical interventions for their children. Mermaids will use the money to create a network of 45 groups nationwide.

The chief executive of Mermaids, Susie Green, who took her son for a now illegal sex-change operation in Thailand when he was 16, believes medical intervention is “absolutely vital” for children unhappy with their biological sex. Her view is disputed by NHS gender specialists who say intervention is not always right.

Mermaids also wants to overturn an NHS ban on under-16s being treated with cross-sex hormones, which cause permanent body changes and compromise fertility; those taking them require lifelong medical support. Clinicians say children are too young for such a step.

Green has said the refusal by the NHS to give children the hormones can make them “self-harming and suicidal”, and claimed attendees at the main clinic that treats gender-dysphoric youngsters, the Tavistock Centre, in north London, have a “48% suicide attempt risk”. The clinic says the true rate is less than 1%.

In evidence to MPs, Mermaids singled out a doctor at the Tavistock as “anti-trans” and demanded it conduct “a thorough audit of staff and their views”. The charity criticised the clinic for “media quotes that emphasise [the] uncertainty and complexity” of gender questions.

Green, an IT consultant, has no medical training. Responding on Twitter to an NHS psychiatrist who accused her of “making stuff up”, she wrote that “you need to f* off. You know nothing.”

In the absence of NHS treatment, Mermaids has referred parents to a private GP, Helen Webberley, who prescribed cross-sex hormones to children as young as 12. Mermaids recommended Webberley even after she was convicted of operating an illegal gender clinic." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-change-charity-handed-500-000-by-national-lottery-dvbt7t2kb?shareToken=cd8d6faad97cd9dd3fe3f16eb3810f45

ToeToToe · 18/12/2018 22:49

Oh good grief.

I support posie.

ToeToToe · 18/12/2018 22:58

Actually, forget that. I support posie, but I am furious at the wasting of police time here. Over tweeting an opinion.

I'm furious that violence against women, in fact, physical violence - all physical violence - is rife - but the police don't act. Women get actually stalked by predatory men - and murdered - and it comes out that multiple threats were reported, but the police did nothing.

Tweet about Susie Green or the-TW-who-shall-not-be-named - and they're straight on it Envy

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/12/2018 23:15

The obsession with Posie betrays a total misunderstanding of what's going on here. Either they believe their own claim that we are a tiny group of extremists (hence worth picking us off one by one) or they think the majority of us are brainless cheerleaders who will lose interest in the cause if they can only intimidate our 'leaders' into silence.

Nope. For every 3 women who learn what gender ideology means, at least 2 new gender critics are born.

(Oh and Gin for Posie)

HamiltonCork · 18/12/2018 23:17

How much tax payers money has Susie Green wasted? She’s a raging narcissist.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/12/2018 23:21

Surely Green is using the police to harass Posie - is there nothing legal she can do stop this? It's ridiculous that the police seem to be at TRAs beck and call in this way, yet simultaneously don't have the resources to police effectively Hmm

masterstef · 18/12/2018 23:24

I was a huge supporter of trans rights before I encountered Susie Green. I know that's easy to say but she's honestly made me re-think a lot of things due to her behaviour and nonsense like this.

HandsOffMyRights · 18/12/2018 23:27

Mermaids are on the ropes. They are looking for a scape goat and a decoy to make them look like victims. it's a classic MRA move.

This is appalling. This is harrassment and I urge Posie to take out legal action, funded by her supporters.

I stand with Posie.

Datun · 18/12/2018 23:29

Mermaids statement after the BLF said they were reviewing their funding to them.

Mermaids welcomes all levels of scrutiny into the charity and the services that we deliver to families and young people

Except when we call the police on you, obvs.

NotBadConsidering · 18/12/2018 23:30

What has PP done?

Does she have to have done anything? I didn’t think so these days.

littlbrowndog · 18/12/2018 23:35

Lols she don’t have to have done anything
Wtaf are the polis up to
I thought they were stretched yet can dance to greens tune
Well ......

RedHoodGirl · 18/12/2018 23:43

Posie said that she was contacted by the police several weeks ago, so it would’ve been well before the article in the Sunday Times last weekend. I suspect the police would’ve been collecting evidence over a period of time - technically the crime of ‘harassment’ is multiple instances (not just one!)

LittleLifeRaft · 18/12/2018 23:43

Why is this happening? Women are raped, harassed, abused and police aren't interested, but someone gets offended by a YouTube video and they're straight there. What the fuck is going on? I'm so fearful that it is too late to stem the tide of trans ideology.

Ereshkigal · 18/12/2018 23:50

Tweet about Susie Green or the-TW-who-shall-not-be-named

And even abusive fuckers that aren't even trans who shall not be named.

Ereshkigal · 18/12/2018 23:52

I'm so fearful that it is too late to stem the tide of trans ideology.

It's not too late but I think we're going to have to get out on the streets and encourage every decent person to join us and make our voices heard loud and clear.

WeRiseUp · 19/12/2018 00:03

Ffs. Angry

BoreOfWhabylon · 19/12/2018 00:05

I don't do facebook. Can someone summarise what Posie has said there please?

ToeToToe · 19/12/2018 00:14

And even abusive fuckers that aren't even trans who shall not be named.

Yup. How is it that I know exactly who you mean?

Bore - she doesn't say too much in the video - just that she will be interviewed in the New Year, and apparently it was due to a YouTube video she made. I'm sue it will all come out in due course.

Solidarity Posie Wine

AornisHades · 19/12/2018 00:23

Agreed this is ridiculous and a waste of police time. The state should not be harassing people for a belief in facts.

NoWhat · 19/12/2018 00:24

BoreOfWhabylon

It appears arrest for harassment of a public figure now includes any form of talking about them in public - previously harassment was continuous contact after being told it was unwelcome.

BubonicTheHedgehag · 19/12/2018 00:36

If any organisation has cultivated a police force as its personal attack and defence force, then questions should be raised at a high level about both parties. This is serious.

I agree with what others on here have said - police ignoring assaults and burglaries, but they dedicate precious police resources to their attempted intimidation of women who speak facts.

The links between Mermaids, MESMAC and a certain police force.... so sinister.

This needs investigating. Fucking angry about this.

FreshlyBakedRolls · 19/12/2018 00:45

Posie's Facebook page appears to have disappeared.