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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker to be interviewed by the police (again) following another complaint from Susie Green

151 replies

WeSeeYou · 18/12/2018 22:02

www.facebook.com/theposieparker

OP posts:
GodThisIsShit · 19/12/2018 13:14

Gaaaaah! I want the Sandy Calendar but it's out of stock! Shoot!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 13:14

We all know who's really laughing.

People getting a product which they receive in exchange for money.

It's almost as if they are buying it isn't it?

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 19/12/2018 13:14

I'm getting quite a good collection now. Standing for Women & Hands Off My Rights T-shirts & hoodies & a LAWS bag. Oh and a Shero top.

Should I know who DrSue is then, littlebrowndog? I thought just the latest woke visitor from Twitter.

littlbrowndog · 19/12/2018 13:17

No empress I don’t know who sue is
Apart from sues threads keep getting deleted
💪😂

LangCleg · 19/12/2018 13:18

We all know who's really laughing.

Me! Me! Pick me!

R0wantrees · 19/12/2018 13:18

We all know who's really laughing.

DrSue who is the 'we all' you speak of?

'We' (eg those who have read recent posts & articles) are aware that there is a monitoring group. A member described of which described,

"a sizable trans community that monitors and discusses Mumsnet regularly. “The whole of the Feminism board was like a spectre hanging over the daily trans discourse.”

threads
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3444548-Vice-how-an-online-forum-for-moms-became-a-toxic-hotbed-of-transphobia

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3445268-To-be-shocked-that-Mn-has-been-branded-a-hotbed-of-transphobia

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 19/12/2018 13:28

Look!

Posie's opened a shop on Redbubble. With mugs. And all sorts! www.redbubble.com/people/DefinitionHuman

Carowiththegoodhair · 19/12/2018 13:29

Meantime I had my police officer ring me again this morning to tell me off for attempting to expedite action against the man who has, since October half-term, written over 500 deeply abusive blogposts about me, prompting a safeguarding referral for my children by their school.

In addition to expressing violent and sexually violent sentiments towards me, the man has identified my ex, boasted about looking at photos of my teen daughter, published photos of all my kids, IDed their schools, published private email addresses and phone numbers inviting 3rd parties to contact us, threatened that he is sniffing our IT details, threatened to turn up here and set up porn accounts and ordered goods in our names. “You need porn and sex toys in your life. How many men have you had up there?”

He’s also threatened to contact my ex to find out about contact details for DD, expressed a desire in knowing my sexual history, repeatedly sexually objectifies and humiliates me and tries to undermine my husband’s job and mine too. He wrote to the bishop to complain about being called a pervert and the bishop apologised to him.

But it’s not harassment. That only occurs when Posie or Glinner comment on public figures.

Merry Christmas.

NotANotMan · 19/12/2018 13:30

Can someone please screenshot posie's post about this and share it here? Thanks

NotANotMan · 19/12/2018 13:31

Fuck sake Caro

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 13:36

Look! Posie's opened a shop on Redbubble. With mugs. And all sorts!

NICE!

We should all thank Sue for getting us to look for these, thank you Sue.

theOtherPamAyres · 19/12/2018 13:52

Who can we complain to about the fact that our public police force is ceasing to serve the public

  1. Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary
  2. The Independent Office for Police Conduct
  3. The Minister for Policing, Nick Nurd MP
  4. The National Police Chief Council
  5. The Chief Constable of the individual police forces that are being used to support a vexatious agenda against gender dissenters.
  6. The Association of Police and Crime Commissioners
  7. The Parliamentary Committee on Women and Equality

Don't Cooperate
I would also say to those who may be interviewed: don't agree to be interviewed. By agreeing to be interviewed voluntarily, you are giving ammunition to TRAs. The police are going on a 'fishing expedition' and you don't have to say anything. Merely confirm your name and address and nothing more.

They have to have reasonable grounds to arrest you, or they have to have compelling evidence before they can issue a summons. Let them proceed to the next stage (consulting CPS) without any help from you or without any information about your 'defence'.

You say: "You have my name and address for a summons - put up or shut up. I will not be interviewed voluntarily."

Yes, the police can feck it. The public is losing confidence in their impartiality and suspects them of collusion in a perverse course of action. In such circumstances gender dissenters cannot be expected to cooperate in their fishing expeditions, in my view.

BrienneofTERF · 19/12/2018 13:58

Thanks theotherPam, that’s a nice long list to send letters of complaint to!

NewWomensMovement · 19/12/2018 14:09

Thank you theotherPam

I am still furious that Linda Bellos was interviewed in North Yorkshire on extremely spurious grounds - an older, black lesbian - for a supposed 'hate crime'. She had a seizure during that interview and it had to be stopped. It is disgusting that she should be put through so much stress because the police did the bidding of one spiteful and controlling individual.

Why do the police become police officers? To do that to someone? Hopefully it is because they want, in part, to stop harassment, not to bloody perpetrate it. Angry

R0wantrees · 19/12/2018 14:16

I am still furious that Linda Bellos was interviewed in North Yorkshire on extremely spurious grounds - an older, black lesbian - for a supposed 'hate crime'. She had a seizure during that interview and it had to be stopped.

(I think it was Norfolk & share your anger. Not least that she was then, with Venice Allan vexatiously privately prosecuted by someone claiming to be a trans rights advocate)

Linda Bellos statement:
"Police State?
On Saturday the 21st of April 2018 I drove to King’s Lynn to meet, voluntarily 2 Police Officers who wished to interview me under caution regarding words I spoke at a meeting on the issue of Trans Women in York on the 8th November 2017. What I found out during the course of the interview was that my brief contribution to the discussion was being broadcast on the Internet when I thought that my words were simply being recorded. The police implied that my statement implied or stated I would strike back if attacked are being interpreted as capable of being for a threat to Trans women, that is people who hitherto had been defined as men.
I did say that I would fight back, as I had had to do when I was a small child in London in the 1950’s and 60’s when racists attacked my brother and me. The fight back I was referring to was against those people who attacked Maria McLaren, though I did not know her full name at the time but I had seen the recording of that attack in October at Speakers Corner and it had made we very angry and distressed, especially when I read the increasing demands that some trans young ‘women’ were making within the Labour Party and elsewhere to be considered women and to silence any biological women who are critical of the growing politics of ‘gender’.
On the 8th of November I had driven from my home just outside Norwich and had gone to what I believed was the venue of the Meeting I was to speak at, I found the venue at about 4pm and had given myself enough time to find a place to buy food and relax before the meeting was to start. What I found instead was that the venue had been threatened and that the organisers were about to travel around York to find an alternative venue. I parked my car and joined them in the trip this was necessary because I did not know York and would have found it almost impossible to know where to go.
We did find a Hotel Meeting room available for hire and we went back to the rendezvous point where attendees had been asked to gather before they were told of the new venue. If I was briefed about who else was speaking or that the meeting was being live streamed I did not register these facts. The only relevance was that I would not have spoken about Maria Mc had I known she was speaking at the event. As for the live streaming, I had no idea that this could be done. I say this because I thought that I was speaking only to those present in the room.
I make this latter point because the Police in interviewing me advised that I may have caused alarm to those not in the room who might hade interpreted my words as a threat to them, or perhaps as an incitement to harm Trans women. What seems to be forgotten is that physiologically trans women have grown up as to be boys and men, with both male strength and sense of entitlement. I can defend myself if attacked and thankfully have not needed to do so for many decades, but it is important to my independence and autonomy that I feel free to be in any space and situation to express my views. That is what I believed our ‘freedom of expression ‘refers to.
So my time and money are being spent on defending false claims against me and to taking not only my time but that of the police.
It would appear, that men who now call themselves women are entitled to threaten and dominate feminists such as myself and if we speak out of step with their utterances we are ‘transphobes’. Does the right to designate others to apply only to Trans women? Can I call them racists for treating me ‘less favourably’ than they treat white feminists? If so, I assure you my complaint would be under civil, not criminal law and I cannot believe that the use of resources in interviewing me under caution is a proportionate use of public resources. But who am I to consider myself equal to young white men who think they are female?
I have yet to hear whether the police intend to take further action against me and they are/were alarmed that I had an epileptic episode that caused the interview to be curtailed, still I await further police action with interest.
Linda Bellos OBE"

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3237264-Linda-Bellos-arrested-Title-edited-by-MNHQ-to-make-clear-that-she-was-in-fact-interviewed-under-caution

NewWomensMovement · 19/12/2018 14:23

Thank you RowanTrees for that post and the correction about Norfolk police.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 19/12/2018 14:29

I was outside Westminster Magistrates Court on the morning that Linda & Venice heard their case had been dismissed, then at the LAWS event in the evening - THAT was a pretty good day.

CaptainsYuleLog · 19/12/2018 14:29

Linda and Posie are true heroes and role models.

littlbrowndog · 19/12/2018 14:31

Jeez carol and Linda
What a pack of shite
It’s a fecking disgrace that the police are acting like this

They are meant to protect all of us not just special ppl

R0wantrees · 19/12/2018 14:42

Video from Westminster Court after the first hearing:

"We stand with Linda Bellos and Venice Allan: Speaking to supporters outside the court"

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/12/2018 14:44

I have to say the contrast between the way Caroline F and Posie P are being treated by the police is remarkable Shock

R0wantrees · 19/12/2018 14:50

Does anyone have a link to a video of Linda Bellos & Venice Allan at the second hearing when CPS led to charges being dropped and it being discontinued?

Also curious if the conclusion was ever covered by newspapers as some had commented prior to the trial starting?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 19/12/2018 14:54

I will donate to a crowdfunder for Posie, if it comes to that.

OlennasWimple · 19/12/2018 14:55

Anyone else fancy joining me in emailing the Police & Crime Commissioner for West Yorks Police?

Contact details for him are here

redredrobins · 19/12/2018 15:05

Has Posie considered reporting mermaids (or Susie Green) to west yorkshire police for harassment? after all sex is a protected characteristic under law and Susie objects to Posie defining women.

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