Lily Madigan and the School Saga

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Lily Madigan has been self-praising again, with more details about how they "sued" their school.

They hired a "team of solicitors", to "advice" Lily and the "principle" gave in on all their "demands".

The truth is slightly different.

Lily arrived at school wearing basically a boob tube. They were sent home because it was against uniform policy. Any girl wearing that for school would have been asked to change or go home. It's clear Lily was looking for a reason to kick things off.

Lily was not "made to wear a man's suit". They were asked to adhere to the school uniform - like any pupil. The girls wear a blazer too and can wear a skirt or trousers; many girls choose to wear trousers and the blazer.

Lily organised a petition. It was an ONLINE petition, quite different to a paper one. The support Lily claimed she had is very difficult to prove.

The school's staff tried very hard to placate Lily. They had meetings with their mother, the pastoral care team, etc - and got nowhere. It apparently caused distress to Lily's younger sister who was at school.

Lily contacted a solicitor in London. Because of the Equality Act the school did have to cater to transgender pupils - and when the school was informed of their obligations they changed their policy in accordance to the Act.

There was no suing of the school. There was no legal action, certainly no "legal battle", as Lily repeatedly claims.

There was no victimisation of Lily. Afterwards, the school said they had tried very hard for Lily and their words and actions had been deliberately twisted.

And now Lily still says that "they won", they "got it all", and that they did all this behind their parents' backs, and then "embarked on a media tour".

Lily's parents knew about it all, right from the day Lily was sent home.

It when you were little didn’t you really get a thrill when your exasperated parents just agreed with whatever blethers you were coming out with just to shut you up?

Mummy mummy mummy hmrhat dog over there is called Bernard and I know because he spoke to me and he told me that he could fly...
uhuh
I can fly too mummy - mummy - MUMMY I CAN FLY TOO...
yes dear
and when daddy gets home we are going to build a fort in the back garden and the monster will live there - won’t they mummy, mummy MUMMY WONT THE MONSTER LIVE THERE?
That’s lovely darling
And I will have a pony - A PINK PONY MUMMY - one that can fly. Won’t I mummy - mummy? Where did you go mummy...

At a time when Andrews Neil, famous feminist, is under fire for his word choice towards a female journalist, it’s definitely a good look to be using the same words in a similar manner.

Person who makes no effort to gain employment claims they can't get a job because of being trans.

Check out the latest tweet and report back....

The look on the face says everything

Lily Madigan today
We should live in comparable but appropriate (family size, disability etc) homes. We should all also have a universal basic income and income from work that we can use however we want, for nicer housing if someone wants it.

The change is that we should all have free habitable housing. If someone wants to pay the state for a better house, more money for us.

Also Lily Madigan today
I loved working with PUMA and Teen Vogue but something I didn’t love was how they took a lot of the politics out of my story. There was a lot about the need for socialism that didn’t make the cut and it makes it feel less authentically me.

Also see Ash Sakar and Norovirus media (who don't pay staff) for more utterly inane communism crossed with classical liberalism whilst wearing your branded politically slogan t-shirt.

That twitter page is an absolute car crash.

Im not middle class but I wont sell the Apple Watch I was given for my fund becaus eI neeeeeed it, I'm a mess but objectively a cute one (er, I think subjectively was the word they were looking for) and thats all that matters really!

Im beginning to actually believe Mx Madigan is actually just trolling for the lols.

Im beginning to actually believe Mx Madigan is actually just trolling for the lols.

I don't believe that for one reason.

Trolls who act like that feel the need to boast about what they are doing.

‘Don’t underestimate young people’

I don’t think it’s possible to underestimate LM.

We should live in comparable but appropriate (family size, disability etc) homes. We should all also have a universal basic income and income from work that we can use however we want, for nicer housing if someone wants it.

The change is that we should all have free habitable housing. If someone wants to pay the state for a better house, more money for us.

Aww - no unicorns!

I take it the Sue Pascoe responding to Lily's tweet is the Conservative would be MP master of foxhounds one.
Sue doesn't seem impressed by Lily or Lily's politics

Sorry, but that's the level of political discourse I get from my tweens. Free stuff for everyone? And the quirky and not at all sinister twist that you pay the state which owns the better housing.

I too think troll (or alt right plant).

Madigan is not the reason I will never vote Labour again, it’s the revelation that there are NO adults in the Labour Party prepared to deal with this shitshow. If they can’t deal with one stirring little fuckard they certainly can’t run a country.

As if Lily talked about socialism when being filmed for Vogue.

Vogue is a huge, corporate organisation - they told her what to do and she did whatever they told her. She was "directed". Now there is a backlash Lily is now doing the usual - making up stories, covering her back. All utter rubbish.

Socialism ≠ I won't need to bother with a job.

Lisa Muggeridge used to say that Universal Basic Income is just weed money for posh kids. I feel Lily may be proving her point.

Yes, and Education Maintenance Allowance was what previous generations of students called a Saturday job!

Sorry on their Lila Perry moment.

Better not mis gender

I take it the Sue Pascoe responding to Lily's tweet is the Conservative would be MP master of foxhounds one.
Sue doesn't seem impressed by Lily or Lily's politics

Sue Pascoe has had an upturn in emplyment opportunities since transitioning.

Sue talked about her previous career background in an interview with the Daily Mail:
Master of the Hunt, 54, has cut-price gender reassignment surgery in India - and marks her last day as a man by going bowling and enjoying a burger with her two sons
Graham Pascoe diagnosed with gender dysphoria in August 2014
While a man, she was master of her local hunt in North Yorkshire
Now Graham has transitioned to Sue and lives as a woman after surgery
She celebrated last day as man with her sons, with a burger and bowling'
(extract)
The former Master of a local Hunt who lived for 50 years as a man is now celebrating life as a woman after undergoing cut price gender reassignment surgery in India.

Successful businessman Graham Pascoe swapped his life as an alpha male, living on a 40-acre farm in North Yorkshire with his wife and two children, to become glamorous Sue after being diagnosed with gender dysphoria in August 2014." (continues)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3163747/Master-Hunt-woman-age-54-marks-day-man-going-bowling-enjoying-burger-sons.html

Statement: Women and Equalities Committee
Oral evidence: Transgender Equality Inquiry, HC 390
Tuesday 13 October 2015
(extract)
Sue Pascoe: I am 55 now, and it took me until I was 54 years old to come out and have the confidence to lose pretty much everything in my life to be myself. I had to wait until my father and my mother had died, and divorce freed me from my duties to my wife, and then I could start to look at being myself. I told my wife before we were married that I had a feminine side to me, but she did not want it in our marriage and that became very difficult. I hid myself as Sue most of my adult life. I was made fun of when I grew up, and I knew with pretty much certainty that if I tried to come out when I was a partner in PricewaterhouseCoopers or in Andersen, that would probably be the end of my career. I had to wait for the latter part of my life to make those transitions.

It is interesting. I made my decision to become permanently Sue in July last year, and I thought that I would lose all my family, my friends, my business and my farm, be ostracised by my friends, and need to go abroad for an operation and then start a new life with a new identity. That was the basis upon which I decided to become Sue. Amazingly, it has not really been like that. Most people who perhaps have not been in my life have been fantastic and that is the general response I get—former work colleagues. It has tended to be people who have been very close to me—knew me as Graham and now see me as Sue—that find it quite hard to make that mental leap, but that will come with time. What is clear is that going back into the workplace, which I am going to try to do—I just do not know how I am going to be responded to, but I thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak today. Graham never got to address Parliament, so this is one up for Sue."
data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/women-and-equalities-committee/transgender-equality/oral/23159.html

Sue Pascoe also contributed to a panel where Law and transgender equality, employment issues examined:
www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/women-and-equalities-committee/news-parliament-2015/evidence-transgender-inquiry-third-15-16/

This summer Sue Pascoe became an 'advisor on inclusion' for Channel 4:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331095-Channel-4-appoints-a-new-advisor-on-inclusion

& spoke at the Conservative Party Conference.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383926-Sue-Pascoe

O a face off between Sue and Lily, how utterly fascinating.

This would, I have to say (very carefully as I know Sue Pascoe has made public her GRC) be a most interesting demonstration of male socialisation behaviours as well as an examination of their political integrities.

Weirdly this is the second aggressive trans women on Twitter to have had their memory wiped in the last couple of weeks...

Is this the opening rounds of the battle to become the first transwoman MP?

Times
"It’s in the Labour Party that Madigan has found a home. I ask when she started to care about politics and she answers: “Jeremy Corbyn.” She joined the party after the election, has met most of her friends through it and shows me a video of Corbyn answering a question from her at Labour’s youth policy conference. Raising Corbyn’s terrible track record with women’s rights is pointless because Madigan is evangelical. She wants to be the first transgender MP."

screen shots from Daily Mail article linked previously and Times quoted above

Such a possible batttle would really test Jess Bradley's assertion:

"And I can honestly say that the work that trans people do for each other means that, for me at least, the trans community is a beautiful place to be. Despite our differences, we have each others' backs"

Jess Bradley 'To My Trans Sisters' edited by Charlie Craggs (publ Oct 2017)
from thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330245-Abuse-of-GC-women-on-twitter-be-warned-graphic-disturbing

There's lots of talk about a public debate on Brexit, May vs Corbyn, maybe in the spirit of inclusion we should hope for a Pascoe vs Madigan?

SuperLambBananas who was the first?

Wonder whether anyone else has noticed a distinct change in LM’s tweets? Suddenly with the new handle, LM is teeeting much more regularly on a broader range of political issues, and in longer, better written tweets. I think an analysis would suggest the hand of an editor or advisor behind the new style of tweets.

The Sue Pascoe descriptions above seem a very good description of how life has been for a lot of people who are trans. None of us wish them any harm. It is just when things impinge unfairly on the rest of us that there is a problem particularly given how much discrimination against women that there already is.