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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Watch live Government debate on self ID

352 replies

Goldenbuzzer · 21/11/2018 09:11

parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/55146a39-db05-4cb8-b256-41ddbc47f2bc

Hope this works. We should all be able to watch the Westminster hall self ID debate today at 9.30 am live.

Not sure if you can go back and watch it later...

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charlestonchaplin · 21/11/2018 10:20

Unfortunately nellie there's only one of him and he doesn't have all the questions and answers. Meanwhile no-one challenges the flood of misinformation being spouted.

deepwatersolo · 21/11/2018 10:21

'Over half of trans people have attempted suicide' says woefully misinformed sad-face handmaiden.

What does that have to do with anything? Even if said number was true, the toilets didn't make them. Or is the issue here about suicides in toilets? This is silly.

WhereAreWeNow · 21/11/2018 10:22

Oh gawd, now it's bloody Dawn Butler

AbsintheFriends · 21/11/2018 10:23

Totally agree with that happydappy. David, if you come over here and read this, please know that your courage and integrity is hugely appreciated by many, many women and your actions are not in vain.

(He's being told off for not being sensitive enough now, and hurting people's feelz...)

Gonzales27 · 21/11/2018 10:23

isn't gender dysphoria a recognised mental illness? genuine question, i don't know the answer.

saltedcaramelmuffin · 21/11/2018 10:26

I've got loads to do today but am stuck in a coffee shop watching this! Anyone know how long it will go on for?

charlestonchaplin · 21/11/2018 10:26

I hope some of the papers report critically on this debate. It's an absolute travesty.

happydappy2 · 21/11/2018 10:26

This isn’t a debate, it’s a pro trans misinformation shit show. No balance at all.

FloralCup · 21/11/2018 10:27

Is this how all debates in parliament go? Such long winded waffle from most of them.

littlbrowndog · 21/11/2018 10:27

How do they face discrimination
Indignity

AbsintheFriends · 21/11/2018 10:27

Oh god - Dawn Butler bemoaning the fact that the UK has slipped down the league tables of trans-friendliness. LEAGUE TABLE! We used to be number one and now we've slipped to no. 4 because of transphobic media coverage. (It's all Janice Turner's fault. Send her to the gulag and confiscate her laptop.)

LatinForTelly · 21/11/2018 10:27

Just started watching this. I don't understand how the women can't see other women's concerns. I really just am flummoxed. How can they not see?

LikeDust · 21/11/2018 10:28

This is Bercow's stitch up if you ask me.

Think I'm a cunt for not allowing an urgent question about Karen White? Well here, i'll smoke a few cigars with Helen Belcher and we can hatch a plan to make David TC Davies look like an isolated nut job.

Jobs a goodun

littlbrowndog · 21/11/2018 10:28

Waffle waffle feelz feezlz sad sad faces

Gonzales27 · 21/11/2018 10:28

i'm not sure how much more of this i can watch...

FlowersAndHerts · 21/11/2018 10:28

This is a shockingly low level of debate. They are all backing each other up in a sea of ignorance.

WhereAreWeNow · 21/11/2018 10:29

All of this "it's a serious crime to commit identity fraud" is such bullshit when we know that no one - not prison officers, not police officers - would dare challenge someone's assertion that they are whatever special gender identity they claim to be.

AbsintheFriends · 21/11/2018 10:29

I wonder if there's a cash incentive for Dawn from an interested group if our league table position improves...

^^ pure speculation

littlbrowndog · 21/11/2018 10:29

Where is the sad faces for the women assaulted in prison

CathyDyson · 21/11/2018 10:30

Don't understand this. Does one side of the debate speak en masse and then the other side? In terms of a stitch up, though, surely it's a debate that's open to anyone who wanted to go along and speak. Why haven't the anti-self ID MPs turned up?

JamieAndPukka · 21/11/2018 10:30

These women will find their place in history, not in the way they imagine.

An empty room is disappointing because there is only one MP debating on the GC side, cowards.

An empty room is good, in that the other MPs don't want to be known for falling for the Emperor's new clothes.

littlbrowndog · 21/11/2018 10:30

NOT SUICIDE AGAIN FFS

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/11/2018 10:31

Why haven't the anti-self ID MPs turned up

They are afraid.

FlowersAndHerts · 21/11/2018 10:31

Stonewall gets another vote of thanks from Dawn Butler...

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/11/2018 10:32

This is big, not with amount of people but with powerful ones supporting self ID.