Watch live Government debate on self ID

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parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/55146a39-db05-4cb8-b256-41ddbc47f2bc

Hope this works. We should all be able to watch the Westminster hall self ID debate today at 9.30 am live.

Not sure if you can go back and watch it later...

I can't stand liars, these people repulse me.

Oh fuck off Scottish woman

It’s like Brexit. No one is actually looking at practical consequences. The difference with self Id is that any man can claim trans status. Some will be genuine, but a proportion, genuine or not WILL be predators.
What do we know about predators? They will go to HUGE lengths to get their victims. Paedophiles train for years to get into chosen professions, the church, schools, nurseries. Some identify vulnerable women with children, groom the woman, marry or start relationships just so they can abuse their children. We heard recently of the case of a policeman who entered the profession to get access to children.

If men can go into women’s changing rooms by saying they are trans, of COURSE they will.
This is at a time when sexual offences against women are up, when sexual offences against children in schools have rocketed. We need at least evidence that trans women do not have the crime rates that men do because as things are, the little evidence is the opposite.

Do we know how many people who have applied for a GRC have actually been refused?

This conflation between sexuality and transgenderism is BULLSHIT. How can a lesbian NOT be aware of the danger in that??

The Scottish woman doesn't get the issues at all. She sees it all from the difficult time she had coming to terms with being gay, and wanting to stop other people suffering as she did. She just doesn't seem to see the wider issues.

Xfactor. Journies and heartbreak

How dare they force people to lie, how dare they create false birth and death certificates, how dare they force their religious beliefs on others. fuck these handmaids telling me how I must speak, fuck you!

Tracing your family tree is going to get a lot harder if birth certs and death certs can be changed.

How does the Scottish woman who had a difficult time coming to terms with being gay feel about compulsory PIV sex for lesbians and rampant homophobia?

I thought Victoria Atkins was OK all things considered.

Why are so many girls wanting to transition at adolescence?
Because it’s shit being a woman, that’s why. And about to get shittier if you have your way.

This is eerily familiar.

The Scottish MP must be Hannah Bardell, as TD said she was from Livingston.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Bardell

overall, very disappointing

OK, well we just keep on going. The truth is out there, and it's even more important to make sure it gets heard when the people in power don't want to acknowledge it.

The way they speak ordering people around makes me rebellious, I don't give in to bullying liars. Liars, liars, liars, liars.

Anyone notice that Helen Belcher has been tweeting proceedings in real time?
twitter.com/HelenCBelcher/status/1065179333524930561?s=20

But Davis made point about trans women are trans women not women and accessing single sex spaces at the end

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Layla Moran has a tiny majority and would do well to recall that half of her constituents are women and that less than 15% of the public shares her view that penis owners can be women.

Spousal veto is NOT about disallowing your spouse to transition. No one can stop that. What a nonsense. It's about the marriage then becoming a same-sex marriage, without the consent of the non-transitioning partner.

The non-transitioning parter partner should be allowed to annul/divorce their spouse on that basis. Not stop them from doing it, for fuck sake.

And HOW exactly can you decide that the diagnosis of gender dysphoria is too onerous, and then NOT get how that's an open door to every predator/tosser in the country?!!

And don't get me started on how it would be considered fraudulent to make a false declaration.

How mad is that? Are you going to prosecute people who detransition?

Absolute fools.

Can't watch at work but thank you all for posting what's happening.

What a shitshow by female mp's.