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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Prof Stock on Woman's Hour today

275 replies

Bittermints · 19/11/2018 09:34

Is this the week they're doing a lot of stuff on gender? Anyway, saw a tweet earlier from Professor Stock that she is on WH this morning. Don't know what time. Should be worth a listen. She is so clear and cogent.

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everybodypuuuuulllll · 19/11/2018 09:37

Women's hour starts at 10 (in case anyone reading this isn't familiar with it!).

She's on with Sally Hines, an academic who's whole career is based on being woke, as far as I can see.

Should be good!

everybodypuuuuulllll · 19/11/2018 09:38

You can listen to Radio 4 online here www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm

Socrates11 · 19/11/2018 09:49

Doc Stock is awesome. So want to listen.

However Hines appears to be the Farage of gender studies very little critical thought evident just assumptions and parroting populism, quite strange for an academic.

Will make me shout lots at the radio no doubt.

KatVonGulag · 19/11/2018 09:51

And "puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul"
Or was it "pullllllllllllllllllllllllll"

Sunkisses · 19/11/2018 09:51

Oh brilliant. Thanks for the tip-off. Doc Stock is great

Galvantula · 19/11/2018 10:07

What are sex and gender?

The starting topic!

I actually came to start a thread with the exact same title Grin

Melamin · 19/11/2018 10:08

Sex is so complicated Hmm

Galvantula · 19/11/2018 10:08

🙄🙄🙄 I think we should use "assigned make/female at birth"

Aaaanndd intersex. 🙈

OrchidInTheSun · 19/11/2018 10:08

Hines thinks the term 'assigned a sex at birth' is useful. And she's bringing intersex into it.

Melamin · 19/11/2018 10:09

(says a sociologist)

AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2018 10:10

I think most WH listeners who aren't well versed in the subject would have been utterly bewildered by about halfway through Hines' opening speech. Nice work on the obfuscating.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 19/11/2018 10:12

Oh this person who leaps from sex to gender to sex, mentions intersex as a proxy for transgender, how frustrating!

Dr Stock being very good.

MrsSnippyPants · 19/11/2018 10:12

I already want to throw things at the radio!

AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2018 10:13

Excellent refocus by JG though. And well done her for picking up on 'cis'

MarshaBradyo · 19/11/2018 10:13

So painful to listen to - one of them anyway: The intersex / gender / non binary one

BeUpStanding · 19/11/2018 10:13

Sex is a social construct! Hilarious. Can hear Kathleen Stock sighing in frustration

Melamin · 19/11/2018 10:14

It is probably a good idea for her to explain her terms - total smoke and obfuscation.

Galvantula · 19/11/2018 10:14

It really is hard to listen to.

Melamin · 19/11/2018 10:15

Batshit lol

AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2018 10:15

JG definitely has strong feelings on this. Voice shaking slightly when talking about women's lives and the way in which they are disadvantaged.

Galvantula · 19/11/2018 10:16

FFS black women and working class women are still bloody women.
Angry

MarshaBradyo · 19/11/2018 10:16

Argh no

BeUpStanding · 19/11/2018 10:16

JG is total GC Star

Melamin · 19/11/2018 10:16

hierarchy of difference - I'm not understanding what she is rabbiting on about there.

OrchidInTheSun · 19/11/2018 10:16

Sally Hines is a fucking idiot