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Tomorrows Mail on Sunday Front Page

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RedToothBrush · 17/11/2018 22:23

School with 17 children changing gender

Tomorrows Mail on Sunday Front Page
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CosmicCanary · 17/11/2018 22:28

Is it wrong that this is no longer shocking to me?


TrashyTerf · 17/11/2018 22:30

I'm glad that this is finally front page news. Well done to the DM for reporting on this issue. I never thought I'd say that!


NicoAndTheNiners · 17/11/2018 22:32

I'm so thick I thought how can a school have a gender!

Either that or it's a particularly poorly written headline.

But yes, am glad that it's being talked about. Hopefully this will invoke further discussion.


Socrates11 · 17/11/2018 22:38

Ha ha, yes, that headline does read poorly Nico... 17 children would not be a very big school... makes it sound like the little village primary I went to a couple of decades or so ago...


Sparkyduchess · 17/11/2018 22:42

Surely this will make people sit up and ask questions.

How can anyone fail to see the clear link with eugenics??


PierreBezukov · 17/11/2018 22:44

What is the link with eugenics?


NotTerfNorCis · 17/11/2018 22:51

Wonder how people will see this in 100 years.

As a kind of mass hysteria, a backlash against feminism, a covert push to sterilise 'misfits'?

I'm pretty sure I know how they won't see it - as the sudden discovery that hundreds of thousands of gendered souls were trapped in the wrong bodies.


PrincessWire · 17/11/2018 22:58

Anyone else notice the sub-headline that "most are autistic?" I honestly think that that is a massive problem. Teens with ASD can struggle to fit in, and they can also be highly suggestable. Imo a lot of them can be easily manipulated into thinking that the reason they're struggling to fit in is because they're the wrong gender. My own DD, who has ASD (as do I) says if she had heard about transgenderism when she was 13/14 she would have easily been sucked in.


AspieAndProud · 17/11/2018 22:59

What is the link with eugenics?

Autistic kids are being put on puberty blockers.


RedHoodGirl · 17/11/2018 22:59

Am I right in thinking I saw the teacher mentioned talking about it on a post here (or am I imagining things?)


VovoBickie · 17/11/2018 23:00

17 kids in one school!!


silentcrow · 17/11/2018 23:01

Hmm. It will be very interesting to see what the "newspaper headlines" sections of the various news channels make of that not that I'm glaring over the tops of my glasses at the BBC.

Brave teacher. Bravo to you.


Needmoresleep · 17/11/2018 23:04

I suspect the school is not unique. As part of a casual conversation yesterday my physio said the school their mum taught in was seeing similar numbers. All from none perhaps five years ago.


RedToothBrush · 17/11/2018 23:06

I said it would make the front page. I was told it was a fringe issue. Minor and didn't interest many people.

Now whether I'm on the 'right side of history' or not, I certainly saw this one coming a mile off when others didn't.


It's depressing to see this on the front page of the Mail

It didn't need to go like this.

It won't be the last time.

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Badgerthebodger · 17/11/2018 23:07

Good on the Mail. I used to subscribe to the view that they were a hate-filled rag but thank god they’ve got the courage to print this stuff. The BBC and The Guardian sure as hell aren’t touching it. I think it’s good that the word’s getting out. A bit of Middle England outrage directed at their MPs would soon cut into the nonsense of some of the proposed reforms


RepealtheGRA · 17/11/2018 23:14

I wonder how big the school is? Knowing what numbers are like at my local secondary, I’m not as shocked as I should be Sad


Binglebong · 17/11/2018 23:17

Newsnight (I think) do a front page round up. Doors anyone know if they covered this?


Badgerthebodger · 17/11/2018 23:18

As an aside, I’m getting a bit sick of seeing posters saying they won’t open Mail links, or asking for a “more credible” source. Whilst I appreciate the thought behind it, part of a healthy democracy is a free press. You can’t just have one or two publishers toeing the party line and being all PC and lefty. We need to have a range of publications with a range of editorial stances, and we need to teach kids to think critically and assess the source. It’s only
MN where it’s seen as unacceptable to be even slightly right of centre, or admit to voting Tory! Lots of people read the Mail, like it or not. They’ve had some good pieces on this issue and shouldn’t be written off. The Times, particularly Janice Turner, have been exceptional.


ZIGGY7 · 17/11/2018 23:18

A friend of mine has a son with special needs who was very affected by a ‘transgender day’ his school had. Letting lobby groups in who have no qualifications to work with children, and who discuss the existence of a ‘gender identity’, is major red flag safeguarding failure.


Awrite · 17/11/2018 23:19

Well done that teacher.

How very brave.

I really hope they aren't outed.


Binglebong · 17/11/2018 23:23

Badger I credit people with the ability to see past any bias and work out the truth of a story. You can find information from both far right and far left and still be part of the middle.

In other words I think the argument of refusing to listen because of the source is just showing their lack of critical thinking.


Procrastinator1 · 17/11/2018 23:24

Press preview on Sky at 11.20 pm perhaps?


LizzieSiddal · 17/11/2018 23:30

This does not surprise me. My niece is as a middle size secondary and has 3 in her year group who identify as trans. One who changes his gender on a weekly basis, and according to her is “doing it to get attention”. She couldn’t repent how many trans pupils were in the whole school.

Thanks to the DM for highlighting this epidemic.


LangCleg · 17/11/2018 23:33

MoS is not the same paper as DM in any case.


RedToothBrush · 17/11/2018 23:45

The DM isn't the MoS. However their editorial lines are now more aligned since Dacre scooted off.

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