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Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/10/2018 17:19

Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

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RedDogsBeg · 17/11/2020 15:49

Thread certainly has been an education, I'm still laughing at the desperation that induced the rolling out of Myra Hindley, what about her? gotcha. As far as I am aware Myra didn't claim to be anything other than an adult human female, i.e., woman, I am sure we would all have heard about it at great length if Myra had decided she was really a man and her crimes should be recorded as those done by a man, or indeed if she had said her crimes were striking a blow for feminism and in particular GC feminism.

DannyGlickWindowTapping · 17/11/2020 15:52

Really? That's odd.... I can just about understand why my post was removed (well, not really, but...), but the following poster simply confirmed that they had read the same thing, and that post has also been deleted.

jj1968 · 17/11/2020 15:54

@RedDogsBeg

Thread certainly has been an education, I'm still laughing at the desperation that induced the rolling out of Myra Hindley, what about her? gotcha. As far as I am aware Myra didn't claim to be anything other than an adult human female, i.e., woman, I am sure we would all have heard about it at great length if Myra had decided she was really a man and her crimes should be recorded as those done by a man, or indeed if she had said her crimes were striking a blow for feminism and in particular GC feminism.
For heaven's sake perhaps the deletions mean it's unclear but I was using Myra Hindley and the post about Saudi Arabia to indicate how ridiculous it was to attempt to link any crime committed by a trans person with trans activism. So it wasn't an attempt at a gotcha, it was an attempt at sarcasm.
Thelnebriati · 17/11/2020 15:57

You tried to link mass shootings of LGBT people to GC feminists, so crack on.

NotTerfNorCis · 17/11/2020 15:58

Surely it depends on the person's motives? If Hindley had been killing people in the name of feminism, then there would have been a link. Jeska attacked people in the cause of getting transwomen into women's sport.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/11/2020 16:04

Well, I've followed the trail of crumbs to the green place and all I can say is

OMG! OMG! OMG!
Grin Grin Grin
And
How different, how very different, from the homelife of our own Dear Queen

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/11/2020 16:19

If we're going to talk about Myra Hindley we should at least acknowledge that she was murdering with a man.

I don't recall her being held up as a feminist at any point. 🤷‍♀️

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/11/2020 16:22

@SophocIestheFox

I am sending virtual gin and some chocolate chip feminist cookies to MNHQ, because I can imagine moderating this thread is causing premature aging in whichever unlucky soul drew the short straw. I’d guess that it’s being moderated to the letter of the guidelines for a couple of obvious reasons.

Personally, I’d like to see this thread survive as I think it’s been an education.

Hells yeah...not a job I’d fancy

(Or be even vaguely qualified for....arbitrating for 3 children is about my limit)

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/11/2020 16:23

@MichaelMumsnet

We're not under any injunction, just trying to keep things on track. We're all about keeping the conversation flowing, but unfortunately this thread has had previously banned posters, sockpuppeting, new accounts derailing, a fair amount of Talk guideline breaking, and more - hence the deletions.
Has it???

Bloody hell...do you need more gin, just try and get a signal out!

nevermorelenore · 17/11/2020 16:24

@CoffeeTeaChocolate

I started reading this board by accident when a certain Canadian person was being involved in multiple litigations. I thought that was a one-off, just one very disturbed individual. Then I saw more and more things here which made me feel like I had gone down the rabbit hole. I would never in a million years have believed certain things unless the individuals themselves had posted them online.

I wonder if the people defending certain people and groups really have read first hand what those individuals are posting? A comprehensive compilation from various media?

If they have, I slightly despair of the world. I think that for my own sanity, I need to believe that they either are too lazy or too dim witted /indoctrinated to search for this information.

Well, exactly. It's not like a gossip site where people are turning up saying 'my cousin's friend knows this person and they did whatever'. They're posting things that have been posted on social media or public websites.

I actually heard about the forbidden site from another forum I was on years ago that also banned mention of them. The content doesn't shock me really. It reminds me of the late 90s internet when there was hardly any censorship.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/11/2020 16:31

I would just like to direct the subject of this thread to this:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

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Butterer · 17/11/2020 16:32

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TinyTroubleMaker · 17/11/2020 16:41

If someone hadn't kept this going, I'd never have looked up the unmentionable. My first foray onto said site. Streisand effect indeed, quite the eye opener.

DeaconBoo · 17/11/2020 16:48

unfortunately this thread has had previously banned posters, sockpuppeting, new accounts derailing, a fair amount of Talk guideline breaking,

Cor, not even my jaded self noticed the sockpuppeting and PBPs! Appreciate this thread being left up with moderation as needed. It is actually quite important to see how legal threats are carried out and how they can end up.

Datun · 17/11/2020 16:51

@Thelnebriati

You tried to link mass shootings of LGBT people to GC feminists, so crack on.
And a bunch of feminists reading an, albeit mucky, website being grounds for an allegation of terrorism.

Although, I'm not sure if that's before or after being cuffed for revenge porn, and destroying the tourist industry.

Datun · 17/11/2020 16:52

unfortunately this thread has had previously banned posters, sockpuppeting, new accounts derailing, a fair amount of Talk guideline breaking,

Crikey. I feel positively saintly 😇

Swisscheesemodel · 17/11/2020 16:54

I saw something terrible when innocently searching for flightless birds of the Anty-podes.

All I can say is Down with this sort of thing!

Butterer · 17/11/2020 16:56

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RedDogsBeg · 17/11/2020 16:58

jj1968 You dismiss any crime committed by trans women or TRA's, any threats of violence issued by trans women or TRA's, any intimidation against women by trans women and TRA's, any actual violence perpetrated by trans women and TRA's.

You resolutely refuse to accept that TW commit crime at the same rates as men, you refuse to accept that an alarming proportion of TW in prison are in there for sex crimes. You refuse to accept that adherence to the TRA logic led directly to Karen White being placed in a locked psychiatric facility where they raped a woman so horrendously that said woman suffered such appalling damage that she will be unlikely to ever have children, nor that the same adherence to the twisted agenda demanded by TRAs led directly to Karen White being housed with female prisoners who they then went on to sexually assault. By the way it is the Ministry of Justice not the Ministry of Defence who would pay the compensation (fat chance), as if any monetary compensation could possibly in a million years make up for what was done to those women, ffs. None of that should ever have happened, GC feminists warned that it would and were threatened, no platformed, doxxed, dismissed, accused of bigotry and a whole lot else, meetings of women who wanted to discuss and debate were attacked and attempts made to shut them down, who is doing this? Why? Whose side are they advocating for? The people driving and agreeing with the TRA agenda are directly responsible for all the above and guess what they are not GC feminists, they are not feminists at all.

Women, their safety, privacy, dignity and right to live their lives as they wish and use the language about themselves for themselves is being sacrificed on the altar of the TRA agenda, no price is to high for women to pay, complete submission and subjugation is required and you are playing your part in that.

Datun · 17/11/2020 17:03

@RedDogsBeg

jj1968 You dismiss any crime committed by trans women or TRA's, any threats of violence issued by trans women or TRA's, any intimidation against women by trans women and TRA's, any actual violence perpetrated by trans women and TRA's.

You resolutely refuse to accept that TW commit crime at the same rates as men, you refuse to accept that an alarming proportion of TW in prison are in there for sex crimes. You refuse to accept that adherence to the TRA logic led directly to Karen White being placed in a locked psychiatric facility where they raped a woman so horrendously that said woman suffered such appalling damage that she will be unlikely to ever have children, nor that the same adherence to the twisted agenda demanded by TRAs led directly to Karen White being housed with female prisoners who they then went on to sexually assault. By the way it is the Ministry of Justice not the Ministry of Defence who would pay the compensation (fat chance), as if any monetary compensation could possibly in a million years make up for what was done to those women, ffs. None of that should ever have happened, GC feminists warned that it would and were threatened, no platformed, doxxed, dismissed, accused of bigotry and a whole lot else, meetings of women who wanted to discuss and debate were attacked and attempts made to shut them down, who is doing this? Why? Whose side are they advocating for? The people driving and agreeing with the TRA agenda are directly responsible for all the above and guess what they are not GC feminists, they are not feminists at all.

Women, their safety, privacy, dignity and right to live their lives as they wish and use the language about themselves for themselves is being sacrificed on the altar of the TRA agenda, no price is to high for women to pay, complete submission and subjugation is required and you are playing your part in that.

Bloody well said Red.
Butterer · 17/11/2020 17:05

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PotholeParadies · 17/11/2020 17:07

Oh for heaven's sake. If I leave this website alone, about 30 posts are made and deleted. Rapidly developing FOMO here! I have no idea what's happening and I dislike it immensely.

Do I have to visit the Antipodean love-child of encyclopaedia dramatica and reddit to catch up on MN threads, too?!

SophocIestheFox · 17/11/2020 17:12

This thread just keeps on giving. Sock puppets and PBPs and derailers, oh my! Grin

Hang in there, Michael, it must be someone else’s turn soon Brew

DeaconBoo · 17/11/2020 17:13

Datun don't forget that the new schools guidelines clarifying language about gender issues mean that the government can arrest anyone who tries to talk about democracy. Or whatever that was.

Datun · 17/11/2020 17:22

@DeaconBoo

Datun don't forget that the new schools guidelines clarifying language about gender issues mean that the government can arrest anyone who tries to talk about democracy. Or whatever that was.
I just wish some grown-ups would take control.

Everybody knows what this is about. Everybody.