Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

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Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

And the lolcows bring lolsuits to court.

@DrLouiseJMoody

Never meant you Butterer, I mean JJ and similar ilk moaning about how awful the site is.

I have no interest in distracting from anything, my point is that we are seeing closer and closer link between GC activists and the far right, from Sonia Poulton's videos being produced by a horrifying anti-semetic website to collaborations with the site under question. I think some people seem to think it's all a big online game, and it's not, there are dangerous people within far right and extremist groupings who will go beyind saying mean things on the internet.

What I find astonishing is that people who call themselves feminists seem to be applauding that thread becoming prominent despite the fact it also attacks and doxes a prominent gender critical activist. Perhaps she's been kicked out of the gang for some reason, I don't know, but it's surely troubling when people will hang one of their own out to dry as long as it means their a chance to own the trans. I think what has underlied most of my posts on this board is a concern about how far people are prepared to take this, what kind of collateral damage is acceptable in the aim of defeating the trans? Because other people, even women on the GC side, are now being harmed and no-one seems interested in putting some breaks on, it just gets more and more extreme.

Underlied is a great typo

jj do you hang around that other website and scold them for being horrid and right wingy? Eh? Or is it just women you like to have a go at and threaten?

You are the one being inconsistent JJ.

Who, exactly. do you think would be motivated to ‘dox’ a GC woman?
Especially one who has spoken out about specific trans activists?

So before you accuse feminists of being linked with the far right, you need to first, actually prove that it is a far right website (and not just a shitposting site) and once you’ve done that, you’ll have to come up for some kind of excuse for the trans activists that use it.

Then your accusations might mean something.

You do know trans people post on the site you loathe but we cannot mention?
Why aren't you over there berating them instead of over here blaming us for it?

Mumsnetters put the brakes on the farmers? Oh, ok then.

I will give my IT guy a call and have it shut down right away.

What's amusing jj is your effervescent ranting.

@BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero

You are the one being inconsistent JJ.

Who, exactly. do you think would be motivated to ‘dox’ a GC woman?
Especially one who has spoken out about specific trans activists?

So before you accuse feminists of being linked with the far right, you need to first, actually prove that it is a far right website (and not just a shitposting site) and once you’ve done that, you’ll have to come up for some kind of excuse for the trans activists that use it.

Then your accusations might mean something.

Have you seen the language used on that site. The way they talk about race and sexuality, the words they use? Who else talks like that? I'm sure many of them are overgrown teenagers but that doesn;t mean there aren't more insiduous forces on there.

Ban everything.

You;ve clearly spent a lot more time on there than we have.

Have you seen the language used on that site. The way they talk about race and sexuality, the words they use? Who else talks like that? I'm sure many of them are overgrown teenagers but that doesn;t mean there aren't more insiduous forces on there.

Why are you berating MNers about language used on a different website. Shouldn't you be over there telling their users?

Why are you berating MNers about language used on a different website

we're the ur-mother. here to take the blame for the sins of the world

That, JJ, is ‘shitposting’.

Maybe you need to spend some time with the under 50s?

16 ongoing cases. 16. Blimey.

I suppose every time someone pops up over here to shout "squirrel", there is something going on over there. It would be logical.

I might be tempted to describe jjs work here as shitposting? Any thoughts?

jj, I think this conversation about the culture of a totally different website, which some/many of us had never heard of before this thread, needs to be its own thread. I will not be engaging in discussion of it here any longer.

This is a general question, which kind of relates to the original thread, but which is not specifically about the named claimant.

If anyone, for any reason, is deemed to be a vexatious litigant by a judge, their name goes on to a list held and updated by @gov.uk. There are very brief details available, with no information given about the nature of their litigation history. However, next to the "name" column, there is "also known as". Presumably to ensure that the individual cannot start more cases without approval. If someone has changed their name generally, e.g. by deed poll, I expect it to show up, but if someone happens to have a GRC, would the government be allowed to deadname that person?

Have you jj seen the language used about and to GC feminists all over social media? The words and descriptions they use for women? There are certainly very insidious forces at work on the TRA side, their reach is astounding.

No it's not a big online game it is very dangerous for women and this is being proven time and time again, although you will never accept that as you are the one that benefits.

There is no aim to own the trans as you put it, the only aim I and others on this board have is for the rights of women and girls as a separate and unique sex class, a sex class that does not include men or boys however they choose to identify, to be upheld, enforced and respected.

I have my own theory about jj and their reason for shitposting this thread to the top of the board for the last couple of days.
Sending more traffic to the fruit farm in the process.
Its a headscratcher thats for sure.
Are we not supposed to be singing wind the bobbin up today, rather than songs by the cure?

I think the ONLY people who are allowed to link pre GRC names are Government agencies, so DWP/register of birth/death/marriage/DBS? Presume that includes the courts, seeing as the GRC application includes a statutory declaration, which is a court document, and if submitted fraudulently would be perjury (although no one has ever been prosecuted for that. Yet.)

Come on, JJ, you can say it. That thread doxes me, or rather, attempts to dox me since I changed my phone number, and I know precisely how my number (and address) appeared on that site. And the implication that I have "been kicked out of a gang" is an odd one. My credentials are fine, thanks.

Now, back to the main point: I don't think anyone is "applauding" that thread (or similar); but they are noting that things can be spoken about there which cannot here because someone finds it appropriate to regularly issue legal threats. And there is behaviour, from some TRAs, that undermines any plausible claim to be a marginalised trans woman. Indeed, there is some behaviour which indicates that people know exactly what sex they are and are exploiting their protected characteristic so as to abuse another group - one to which they will never naturally belong - which deserve protection and safe spaces: namely, women.

I thought something exciting was going on here as this thread has stayed on the front page for days! I guess I decided to read it too late though as there are so many deleted posts, but thanks to some MN’s dropping hints, I was able to find the site in question.

And blimey, I am actually really impressed with how much stuff they seem to be able to find out on people with such little information! And how uncensored it all seems to be! Scary how much of us appear to live and overshare our entire lives online.

Finished that thread and now falling down the rabbit holes of some of our other ‘friends’!