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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Aimee Challenor welcomed into the Lib Dems

239 replies

TurfClub · 30/09/2018 08:48

Just for quick context, Aimee Challenor resigned from the Lib Dems under a cloud of shit, after Aimee's father was charged for raping a 10-year-old-girl while dressed in a nappy, and Aimee continued to employ him as an agent.

So there is currently an investigation by Veritas into what happened, this has not been completed, but already welcomed with open arms into the Lib Dems.

Sickening.

twitter.com/LGBTLD/status/1046165538085523457 (Sarah Brown i think)
twitter.com/JamesCoxLD/status/1046170201644027904 (candidate for Bristol West, Lib Dem held till 2015)
twitter.com/caronmlindsay/status/1046181014090010627

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Keepyourdiscussiontoyourselves · 02/10/2018 18:15

Just to add to this, three women have just been suspended from the lib dem women's network (a group which mainly operates via a closed facebook group), for politely saying they were concerned by Aimee Challenor's joining the lib dems, given Aimee ran the mcarthy style terfblocker blocklist.

Obvs "polite" is my reading of it, but the resulting thread was very polite, had many cries of "TERFS" in return, was then closed by an admin in response to complaints.

And now the women posting on it (who were the subject of complaints) have been suspended from the group.

well

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 18:19

LibDem trans activism is very powerful within the party.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 02/10/2018 18:23

Bloody hell. The LibDems might just as well wind up now. No way I'll be voting for them in the foreseeable future.

FekkoTheLawyer · 02/10/2018 18:23

It's like a contagion.

BlackLambAndGreyFalcon · 02/10/2018 18:41

Oh FFS that's my party.

Keepyourdiscussiontoyourselves · 02/10/2018 18:41

It looks like Sarah Brown was added to the women's network group sometime after the original post. Sarah Brown and Zoe oconnell are active on the original thread, calling women terfs and transphobes, respectively.

Things that will get you banned from lib dems womens network:

Saying you have no political argument with transitioned transwomen, but are concerned by self id.
Posting jane clare jones pieces.
Linking to evidence transwomen have offending rates in line with men.
Saying you are concerned with the silencing of women.

Keepyourdiscussiontoyourselves · 02/10/2018 18:43

Do join the women's network, Black, if you haven't already.

I think there needs to be an open discussion on this, and it will help if there is anyone left to make the argument {hollow laugh}

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 18:46

May 2018 Andrew Gilligan comment about Zoe O'Connell

"Latest bullying transgender complaint (against David Davies MP over We Need to Talk meeting) has been swiftly rejected by parliamentary standards commissioner"

Link to doc embedded:
www.parliament.uk/documents/pcfs/not-upheld/davidtcdaviesnotupheld.pdf

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3263172-Andrew-Gilligan-Latest-bullying-transgender-complaint-swiftly-rejected-by-parliamentary-standards-committee

BlackLambAndGreyFalcon · 02/10/2018 18:47

I have sent a join request. But I'm not sure that they'll let me in as they (presumably?) can see that I also follow fpfw, wpuk, we need to talk and posie (as well as Vince, Nick, Jo, Layla and other ld groups).

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 18:50

Sarah Brown and Zoe oconnell are active on the original thread, calling women terfs and transphobes, respectively.

I've seen the LibDem TRA tag-team in action on social media.

It's quite effective.... relentless & bullying.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 18:50

Sorry, forgot to bold the quote above,
Sarah Brown and Zoe oconnell are active on the original thread, calling women terfs and transphobes, respectively.

Keepyourdiscussiontoyourselves · 02/10/2018 19:13

Quite, R0wan.

If this group was (for example) Liberal Woman Chat UK, it'd be depressing and disconcerting to see women suspended for raising concerns, about silencing of women.

But this is the women's wing of the lib dems. The faceb group is literally the Lib Dem Women's way to communicate with members.

Express concern about silencing of women and you are out.

SunnyInGrimsby · 02/10/2018 19:19

Typical of the Fibdems.
All things to all men.

Keepyourdiscussiontoyourselves · 02/10/2018 19:19

(I should clarify: suspended pending a decision from the group moderators, with everyone else warned to treat each other with respect)

The people calling women terfs/transphobes/terrible human beings are still in the group.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 02/10/2018 19:38

Already-Aimee is TERFLON. They have struck gold here with a sympathy worthy victim trans young person to fly the flag. I’m counting the days till her official spokes person capacity gets tweeted.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 02/10/2018 20:51

black
I have sent a join request. But I'm not sure that they'll let me in as they (presumably?) can see that I also follow fpfw, wpuk, we need to talk and posie (as well as Vince, Nick, Jo, Layla and other ld groups).

Facebook privacy settings let you stop other people seeing what groups you’re in/who you follow. Make sure you’ve got them set to not show to everyone else.

LittleLebowski · 02/10/2018 20:54

Terflon! Grin You certainly have to wonder exactly what Aimee would have to do to actually be dropped. It does seem nothing sticks. I used to leaflet for the LDs. They can totally F off now. The LGBT Twitter account is the worst. Again they can get away with absolutely anything. Take a look at Sarah Ditum questioning one of their prospective MP candidates as he leaps to protect the rights of trans women to be in women's prisons.
mobile.twitter.com/sarahditum/status/1047171855554154496 You can see why Aimee had no problem fitting right in with this woke bro crew.

Milander · 02/10/2018 21:01

I’m horrified that the Lib Dem’s are welcoming in Aimee. I never got that welcome, I worked very hard with small children to look after, fighting for liberal values that I thought included free speech now only to find women asking questions about their rights bein silenced and likened to the BNP kicked out of discussions to be replaced by trans activists.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 21:17

There was always a close connection with Aimee Challenor and the LibDeb LGBT+ twitter group (Sarah Brown, Zoe O'connell?)

When AC thought they had been dropped as Diversity and Inclusion spokesperson earlier in the year, the LDLGBT+ made a comment about their good friend etc

They all work together as part of Stonewall's Trans Advisory group.

FekkoTheLawyer · 02/10/2018 21:17

Too scared not to

arranfan · 02/10/2018 21:21

As the gift that keeps on giving, Aimee C is upbraiding Shahrar Ali:

Shahrar Ali;s behaviour is despicable. He should never have stood for Leader. Divisive and intolerant.

Shahrar Ali remarks:

So I'm getting lectured now on ETHICS, YES ETHICS from AC #Challenor. I am the one who should not have stood as a candidate?! Go Figure..... #gofigure #failuretodisclose #youcouldntmakeitup #projection #implausibledeniability #backstabbing #inyourface

twitter.com/ShahrarAli/status/1046160565775855616

For anyone not up to date on this, Shahrar Ali stood for leadership and AC was a candidate for Deputy Leader.

Some excellent contributions and exchanges in that thread (including from Jane Clare Jones).

IStandWithPosie · 02/10/2018 21:26

What is Ali’s crime according to AC?

arranfan · 02/10/2018 21:35

The proximate act that brought on the AC reproof was that he tweeted Bea Campbell's article (something for which a number of people criticised him as making him complicit in Campbell's alleged transphobia).

twitter.com/ShahrarAli/status/1045584324140175362

He also urges cooperation with Verita - the organisation brought in the investigate the fix the Green Party found itself in over David Challenor (Aimee's father, post his conviction) standing as Election Agent etc. and various interesting constitutional amendments.

HamiltonCork · 02/10/2018 21:41

Probably mentioned something eco related, which as well know Aimee doesn't seem to give a crap about.

IStandWithPosie · 02/10/2018 21:44

Thanks arranfan. So basically look sideways at AC and youre a transphobic T word.