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Aimee Challenor welcomed into the Lib Dems

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TurfClub · 30/09/2018 08:48

Just for quick context, Aimee Challenor resigned from the Lib Dems under a cloud of shit, after Aimee's father was charged for raping a 10-year-old-girl while dressed in a nappy, and Aimee continued to employ him as an agent.

So there is currently an investigation by Veritas into what happened, this has not been completed, but already welcomed with open arms into the Lib Dems.

Sickening.

twitter.com/LGBTLD/status/1046165538085523457 (Sarah Brown i think)
twitter.com/JamesCoxLD/status/1046170201644027904 (candidate for Bristol West, Lib Dem held till 2015)
twitter.com/caronmlindsay/status/1046181014090010627

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DuckingGoodPJs · 01/10/2018 09:18

Aimee will join the LGBT Lds and that will help the obvious lack of lesbian representation
Nah, I think they were just short of furries. LibDems have secured the furry vote! The political strategising is truly amazing.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 01/10/2018 10:18

Fermats- you are bang on the money. Common sense has just left the building. This person is persistent, and all over social media. I can’t see this person changing tack now. (No almost pun intended.) I beleive political parties have a duty of care and they should not be allowing somone like this in. I know on the ground these issues come down to wether local councillors know about this kind of thing- but they should be informed, they are in positions of power. If we feel our local councillors don’t we should know-tell them. It can be done in a nice way. I think I was struck for not sticking to she in relation to this person.

Estellesylvia · 01/10/2018 14:03

Photo is from Aimee Challenor’s Instagram.

R0wantrees · 01/10/2018 14:07

Seems some suggestion on Twitter that Aimmee Challenor is tweeting from Global Greens LGBT+ account?

Kyanite · 01/10/2018 14:38

Global Greens - greenslgbt.net/about/people/

PEOPLE
The Committee of the Global Greens LGBT+ Network is as follows;

Coordinator: Aimee Challenor
Coordinator: Sean Mulcahy
Secretary: Chandler Wilson
Treasurer: Molly Arthurs
European Liason: To be elected
American Liason: To be elected
African Liason: To be elected
Asian-Pacific Liason: Snigdha Tiwari
Representatives from each Global Greens federation are being elected locally, please contact your Federation to get involved!

Kyanite · 01/10/2018 14:41

Harrop used to be a Tory.

Looks like the are getting into all the Parties so they can influence policy, rather than about political allegiance.

R0wantrees · 01/10/2018 14:45

Looks like the are getting into all the Parties so they can influence policy, rather than about political allegiance.

There are a number of trans rights activists who have been in the political parties for some time, influencing policy.

It seems that for many, the main focus has been 'trans-rights'.

There is much to suggest that in this single focus, cross-party co-operation is very healthy.

Needmoresleep · 01/10/2018 14:47

AC is still a Stonewall advisor.

In terms of creepy, the dad's address was on something someone posted about him being Green election agent. I looked it up on Google street view (like the Daily Mail I am nosey about the value of people's houses) and was pretty freaked by the sight of some weird scarey masks in the front window. I really hoped that poor girl, who took 3 or so years before she came forward, did not have to pass them everyday. Creepy, actually chilling. I really hope the LDs do not give AC an active role. There must be a strong chance she too is damaged in some way. All the evidence suggests she had an awful childhood. Even though she is 21 today (random fact, spotted via the twitter link) the LDs have a duty of care.

R0wantrees · 01/10/2018 15:27

'IN ENGLAND'S GREEN AND PLEASANT LAND'
article by Beatrix Campbell

(extract)
"The Challenor case is an arrow to the heart of Britain’s twisted sexual politics.
Somewhere in England there is a girl who was raped, tortured and electrocuted by a well-known local Green Party figure in Coventry, David Challenor. During the criminal trial his victim described his rituals in which he dressed as a little girl or a baby in a nappy, at a house used as an official Green Party address, in 2015. For anyone, this case is cruel and cautionary – for Greens it is a huge political crisis.

We know that nothing is more important than community respect and validation for the survivors of sexual crime. This girl didn’t get it. Her lonely journey to the criminal court was vindicated – at the end of August the perpetrator, David Challenor, received a 22-year-sentence.

But the child was unsupported by the people who mattered most, her intimate community, the Challenors - David, his wife Tina and Aimee Challenor. All three were well-known Green Party activists. It was the abuser they supported, not his accuser.

The police interviewed members of the family in October 2015, including Aimee Challenor, then a teenager about to transition from a boy, Ashton, to a girl, who was about to become an ambitious young trans activist. By 2017 Aimee Challenor was Green Party equalities spokesperson and a party candidate, and this year pitched into the party’s recent deputy leadership election.

The sins of the father are not the sins of the son or daughter. Yet Aimee Challenor’s trajectory as a political trans activist and synchronises with the police investigation into David Challenor. Twice she appointed her father to be as election agent - there are no criteria regulating agents, according to the Electoral Commission – and she insists that despite the criminal charges she was ‘building bridges’ and attempting reconciliation with her father.

The party leadership was not informed until David Challenor was sentenced in August. A couple of senior individuals in the Green Party knew, however, but didn’t pass it on. David Challenor was a volunteer for Coventry Pride, who took swift action when he was charged in 2016 and barred him . Members are now asking whether there was anything else Aimee Challenor didn’t disclose.

The scandal has scalded Green Party leaders. An inquiry has been launched, David Challenor has been expelled. When mutiny among party members forced Aimee’s suspension in early September, she quit, accused the party of transphobia and blocked Caroline Lucas on Twitter as a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

But the Greens need to do more than lament the guile and cruelty of David Challenor and the party’s misfortune in being gulled by the Challenors. The party’s initial official statements about the scandal pathetically paid more attention to Aimee Challenor’s need for support than the vindicated – but traduced – child.

Conducive context
The party should ask itself whether the party’s hard-line pro-trans policies and associated bullying provided what sexual violence scholar Prof Liz Kelly calls a ‘conducive context’ that shielded the Challenors from scrutiny." (continues)

www.byline.com/column/85/article/2300

CriticalCondition · 01/10/2018 15:40

Thank you for posting this R0wantrees.

Well worth reading in full.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 01/10/2018 15:43

Excellent article. It highlights how dangerous Challoner Junior and trans ideology are as well as the failings of the Green Party.

R0wantrees · 01/10/2018 16:00

There's now all sorts of odd statements about AC remaining a member of the various separate parts of the Green Party eg NI, Scotland etc

Confused
LurkbeaLady · 01/10/2018 16:22

Fermats raises a good point, is "Aimee's" place of residence still the Coventry Green Party HQ?

Is Tina still a member of the Green Party? I'm not suggesting two people living in the same house can't be members of different political parties but as Fermats pointed out surely this is a conflict of interests?

And I know the Green Party states you can't be a member of any other political party when you join. I don't see why the Lib Dems/Scottish Green Party would be any different.

Needmoresleep · 01/10/2018 17:02

Will the LibDems adopt TERFblocker, the software apparently created by AC/DC? I assume, given the numbers involved, that a number of LibDems were blocked.

BiologyMatters · 01/10/2018 18:12

That loft ladder picture is all kinds of fucked up.

SPOFS · 01/10/2018 18:20

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any responsible adults in Aimee's life. Their mum and dad are a waste of space, and the adults guiding AC in the GReen Party were just using AC to make themselves look woke.

Aimee needs to take a step back and process the messed up childhood they had. Sadly, nobody will tell them this. Sad

Ucantpo1ishaturd · 01/10/2018 18:31

I have emailed the Liberal Democrat’s expressing my disgust, this is one vote they’ll never see.

BoomBoomsCousin · 01/10/2018 18:34

The Lib Dem’s have a long standing reputation for support for men who commit sexual abuse. Cyril Smith was allowed to continue to rise in the Liberal and then Lib Dem parties, despite Steele knowing the truth about at least some of the allegations, and Clegg refused to look at the party’s actions to see if they should hold people to account or even change policies. They campaign for the right to anonymity for people accused of sex crimes so that others won’t be warned and other victims won’t be encouraged to come forward.

PussinWellies · 01/10/2018 18:46

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PussinWellies · 01/10/2018 19:16

God, iGnore me. Just realized I’m probably being monumentally dim.

InWomensProtection · 01/10/2018 23:56

Is it wrong that I don’t care about Aimee upbringing, as all I think about is that poor child it reallly upsets me. The article in metro dated on 28th August makes me feel sick as she soon enough got over her shock sadness crap.

God if it was me, the last place I would be is with smug smile right in lime light. I be doing everything ducking possible to make sure that child had ever dam bloody support available and working on making sure shit like this nevers happens again.

So seeing Aimee picture everywhere is a reminder of that girl.

I don’t care if it was her father, I would be utterly ducking ashamed, but the set up of all just makes them all wrong.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 00:01

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InWomensProtection · 02/10/2018 00:25

@Handlebar I know what you saying but I don’t want to hear it (not in rude way).

I used to stay away from threads when discussing about child abuse. I’m way too emotional about this topic that I don’t (not won’t) want to reason with any logic beyond the victim, in this case that young girl.

I would never make a good therapist they would be handing me tissues to sob in.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 06:14

Yeah I get that too. Completely.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 02/10/2018 07:44

Challoner Junior's party hopping (Challoner Junior said in an interview that they were a member of the Greens because that party best aligned with their values or some such rot) reminds me of the old Groucho Marx saying: "You don't like my principles? Fine. I have others."

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