Transgender inmate Karen White admits sexually assaulting female prisoners in women's estate, also guilty of rape prior to being imprisoned.

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BBC article: 'Transgender inmate admits Wakefield jail sex offences'
"A transgender prisoner has admitted sexually assaulting inmates at a women's jail.

Karen White, 51, who was born male but now identifies as a woman, has pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual touching at New Hall Prison, Wakefield.

The offences took place between September and November last year. She has since been moved to a male prison.

Details emerged when White appeared at Leeds Crown Court to admit to a rape committed before she was jailed.

She previously admitted two further rape charges, which also happened outside prison.

White will be sentenced for all offences on 11 October."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45436953

What Greyhound said.

I've done some risk assessments in my time, but I reckon the one in this case was a piece of piss:

Risks of putting a rapist in a women's prison = he will rape or sexually assault the women incarcerated there.

How to minimise risks: do not put a rapist in a women's prison.

My fee is £500, please.

Has Lily madigan apologised for suggesting that the victims in this case were lying? Women's officer, do me a fucking favour.

This is a disgrace and entirely predictable and preventable so I hope the women that were attacked sue the prison service, yes i hope they sue the pants off them.

I would definitely support any crowdfunding for this.

Has Lily madigan apologised for suggesting that the victims in this case were lying? Women's officer, do me a fucking favour.

Ah yes - Lily Madigan reckoned we shouldn't believe those women because they were in prison (but strangely, we should believe the rapist put in there with them).

Lily Madigan the Women's Officer. Supposed to represent women. Called women who had been assaulted liars. Because it was a transwoman assaulting them...

Mail link

The Mail is covering it.

I'm almost tempted to re-train as a lawyer specifically so I can be some practical help to vulnerable women who should sue the pants of the very authorities who were supposed to keep them safe.

I’d think very low of any women’s officer or MP who doesn’t speak out and demand answers about a rapist being put in a women’s prison.

would deffo contribute to a fund for those poor female prisoners.

i can't see an end to this though: currently the children of the country's elite, who will one day be the people making the law, are being educated in regressive gender stereotypes and told that clitorises and penises are essentially the same.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3357713-BISH-proudly-supported-by

I've thought the same thing Olenna, half seriously.

The women should be allowed to sue and get compensation.

Will Karen White be classed now as a dangerous woman in a male estate?

Not even serial killer of men Joanna Dennehy has been moved to a male estate.

Sorry cross posts re the suing. I hope there are lawyers willing to take up their case pro bono.

How will the crimes be recorded, anybody know? I mean will they go down on the female crime stats?

In the telegraph with quotes from Nic Williams at FPFW and Sarah Ditum (he was on remand for rape with historical convictions for paedophilia, the prison service are terribly sorry)

apple.news/A2FiM0KVmQdi37xxqZsI0Zw

Telegraph is paywalled, that link takes you to it.

hope there are lawyers willing to take up their case pro bono

I would hope they can get Legal Aid but fear lawyers may to too scared (for both careers and personal safety) of the TRAs to take on the case.

Great quote by Nic Williams of Fair Play For Women in the Telegraph:

"Dr Nicola Williams, spokeswoman for Fair Play for Women, which campaigns to preserve women's spaces, added: "This just shows that the risk assessments that prisons do are not good enough, because it's allowed a rapist, with a penis, into a women's prison. And women have been sexually assaulted. It is absolutely outrageous.

"We have to change the prison guidance now. There should be no fully intact male-bodied prisoners, ever, in women's prisons."

Sarah Ditum quote also excellent.

Saw this quot in the Torygraph.

She (female prisoner) explained: “The defendant would stand very close to her, touch her arm and wink at her. Her penis was erect and sticking out of the top of her trousers.”

Now I wonder if the witness to this had said 'HIS penis' in court or a statement and refused to use the pronoun 'she' could she then have been charged with a hate crime?

Equally, the women he raped, with his penis. If they refuse to refer to White as 'she' are they then guilty of a hate crime and risk a criminal conviction themselves?

from the Telegraph:
"The prison service has apologised after a transgender inmate, charged with raping a woman, sexually assaulted four fellow inmates just days after being remanded into an all female jail.

Convicted paedophile Karen White, who was born Stephen Wood, was undergoing gender reassignment, but had not undergone full surgery, when she was accused of repeatedly raping a woman in 2016.

The 52-year-old, who had been previously been jailed in 2001 for a sex attack on a child, told the authorities she identified as a woman and was remanded into HMP New Hall near Wakefield, West Yorkshire.

But within days of arriving at the women-only prison in September last year, White made a sexual advance to another inmate, while in an aroused state.

A fortnight later, White approached another female inmate and struck up a conversation in which she made comments about oral sex."(continues)
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/06/transgender-person-accused-rape-remanded-female-prison-sexually/

This is appalling, an utter failure of the Criminal Justice System, duty of care and decency.

Her penis was erect.. 🤔🙄🤣😳😭

Where is the LM tweet?

Where is the LM tweet?

I think it was on the thread below, definitely discussion about LM's comment there:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309758-This-never-happens-male-offenders-in-female-prisons

Not even serial killer of men Joanna Dennehy has been moved to a male estate.

Or Rose West. Has any woman ever been?

bzz - I can't find the actual tweet but I'm sure there are screenshots around somewhere. Helpfully, the Sun reported on the tweet at the time, just in case LM was hoping that an application of Green Twitter Cleaner would get rid of their online history

IIRC the last time anyone looked into whether any woman was held in the male estate, the answer was that they weren't, even if it meant that they were held in unsuitable or unnecessary accommodation (secure mental institute, solitary confinement type places) instead