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Green Party statement

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Destinysdaughter · 25/08/2018 17:13

Sorry it’s so tiny, I screenshotted it on my phone from Twitter! It’s a bit mealy mouthed...

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Gncq · 27/08/2018 04:50

Sorry,
Why was AC's address use as the Green Party HQ address when AC was only a member applying for deputy leadership?

Was it really the HQ address?

How do we know this?

thecatfromjapan · 27/08/2018 05:02

David Challoner's wife was, I believe, the Membership Secretary (and was holding this position when she defended him in Court).

Leaflets during AC's campaign bore the address as the contact address (along with Aimee's name) for membership enquiries (odd, when I think it was TC who was the actual Membership Secretary).

The address was still listed on-line as the point for enquiries until yesterday (? Can't quite remember. Certainly until after the second Green Party statement had been released.

The Green Party won't have a big building in an area like Coventry. Very few political Parties can afford that. Basically, the Challenor residence was where Membership data was collected, assimilated and held and a point of first contact for anyone wanting to find out about joining the local Green Party, or get in touch with a member.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 06:15

it's the time for scorched Earth

I was just thinking about when the late Tessa Jowells husband was accused of taking bribes, doing tax fraud from our own lovely ex Prime Minister.

The press went bonkers. It was headline news for days and days.They made much of her relation to him. And she left a husband she obviously loved. At least for then. She was subject to an investigation within the labour party (or gov.) due to possible conflict of interest between her personal and political life.

Over a bribe/tax fraud

A child gets raped and tortured. It's not an accusation, it's a straight up conviction from the get go. It isn't going to get quashed at appeal like David Mill's conviction did. And..... quite a lot of crickets considering. The Green Party have been as robust over this as a cream cracker left out in the rain.

Meanwhile there is a quite clear and deeply disquieting "conflict of interests" here. The likes of David Challenor are the biggest winners if self ID goes through.

Easier access to victims.

Softer jails if caught.

And his adult child made self ID/the rights of all under the TG umbrella, (officially including cross dressers and fetishists), their primary focus as part of their high profile in a political party.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 06:27

thread PDFed up to here

If anybody else is on iOS. It's dead simple.

Press the send button on the bar up top (square with upwards pointing arrow). Save to ibooks (gives best result, no cut offs). Email resultant pdf to yourself. Upload to a drive.

Takes seconds and nothing like the slog of trying to screen shot everything. It only does one page at a time, but if you set to 100 posts per page, that's fine.

There is no reason why we ever need to lose a thread again. Cos as long as 2/3 people are regularly doing it, all the posts are archived and can be linked to on other threads.

DuckingGoodPJs · 27/08/2018 06:44

Thanks again for the archiving Cesira.
I don't have iphone, old school lappy, and PDFing pages (for me) looses the comments past one page. No idea why! It is annoying.

MissSusanSays · 27/08/2018 06:58

I’ve written to the editor of The Guardian saying how disappointed and angry I am over their utter lack of reporting.

They are essentially helping to hide a child molester from scrutiny and helping to keep the Greens from accounting for their actions. They complicit.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 06:59

DuckingGoodPJs

😘😘 No problem love. I got really fed up with losing entire threads via zapping. And since I paid an extortionate amount of money for this iPad I will be squeezing all the usefulness out of it possible. Grin

missedith01 · 27/08/2018 07:01

The DM article says "scout leader" and "volunteer with children's gymnastics". Safeguarding? There can't be any. I feel sick.

TimeLady · 27/08/2018 07:01

I can't see anything in The Telegraph or the Daily Express either, so it's not just the Guardian and the BBC.

NameChangedAgain18 · 27/08/2018 07:10

Basically, the Challenor residence was where Membership data was collected, assimilated and held and a point of first contact for anyone wanting to find out about joining the local Green Party, or get in touch with a member.

So membership data was collected in the house where AC and DC were creating the means for doxxing women who object to weakening safeguarding that aims to protect children against predators like DC? Wow, it gets worse. The Green Party can’t claim that they didn’t know about TERFblocker. How on earth did they think it appropriate for the collection of personal data and doxxing to be going on at the same address? Their contact address.

Didactylos · 27/08/2018 07:11

I think its probably important, watching this seriously concerning issue around safeguarding finally come into the press and be reported, to comment on articles and point out the delay to reporting and injunction plus the various cleanups/alteration of articles/distancing attempts made within that period
It really doesnt show the Greens or AC in a good light, and combined with their public statements is making me even more cynical that the main concern following the conviction for this horrendous crime was not to consider or express concern for the child victim of a dangerous predator, but was to hide information connecting the party and their candidate to the situation.

TimeLady · 27/08/2018 07:15

All credit to Andrew Gilligan for his report in The Times yesterday. He must have kept their lawyers busy over the bank holiday weekend.

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TimeLady · 27/08/2018 07:17

Janice Turner sounds all fired up on Twitter though:

@VictoriaPeckham

7 hours ago

Incredible ⁦*@TheGreenParty*⁩ haven’t suspended membership of trans spokesperson Aimee Challenor for employing a man charged with paedophilic rape, kidnap & torture as her election agent. Yet they suspended & expelled a woman for using wrong pronouns.

CaitlynsCat · 27/08/2018 07:17

The court report says:

Witness 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,17 were called

Was Aimee among those?

DuckingGoodPJs · 27/08/2018 07:20

So membership data was collected in the house where AC and DC were creating the means for doxxing women who object to weakening safeguarding that aims to protect children against predators like DC? Wow, it gets worse. The Green Party can’t claim that they didn’t know about TERFblocker. How on earth did they think it appropriate for the collection of personal data and doxxing to be going on at the same address? Their contact address.

It is a good point. Plus GP and others (LP) were expelling women for 'wrong think'. All rather messy now that it comes to light.

Had many women here not been on the ball as it unfolded this week, no doubt a lot of the connections would have been lost as the internet scrub took place. That is very scary.

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 07:22

How on earth did they think it appropriate for the collection of personal data and doxxing to be going on at the same address? Their contact address.

I have to go through a whole palaver with new clients about privacy/their data, especially since the laws were updated. If I could buy a lion to protect my filing cabinet I would. I am that scared of falling foul of the data protection/privacy laws.

Is data protection/privacy just taken less seriously in Britain ? Maybe because you have Brexit over the horizon so the laws won't necessarily apply to you for much longer ?

CesiraAndEnrico · 27/08/2018 07:27

Was Aimee among those?

Perhaps a post trial report from the court will establish that. And if Aimee was one of the witnesses calling the victim a fantasist.

How long before records become public ?

Gncq · 27/08/2018 07:29

What is the name of David Challenor's wife and is she still membership secretary?

NameChangedAgain18 · 27/08/2018 07:31

Is data protection/privacy just taken less seriously in Britain ? Maybe because you have Brexit over the horizon so the laws won't necessarily apply to you for much longer ?

No, it’s taken extremely seriously. Which makes this all the more astonishing.

CaitlynsCat · 27/08/2018 07:39

"What is the name of David Challenor's wife and is she still membership secretary?"

Tina Michele Challenor.

Gncq · 27/08/2018 07:39

Can't Aimee be charged under the computer misuse act?
Someone needs to press charges surely.

Gncq · 27/08/2018 07:40

CaitlynsCat thank you

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 27/08/2018 07:45

The Green Party can’t claim that they didn’t know about TERFblocker.

They have known about it since at least December when I was added for the second time because I have been asking them about it since then.