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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians react to London Pride

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garam · 08/07/2018 19:28

Some very passionate responses from the lesbian community, since the anti-trans protests.

When Jennifer James pushed to sue the labour party, the result was the labour party clarified it's position as self-id for AWS

This has a similar ring to it, as the anti-trans protesters tried to co-opt the lesbian community, there has been a vocal backlash and clarification of support for trans people.

There's a hashtag to check out... twitter.com/hashtag/LWithTheT?src=hash

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MissSusanSays · 08/07/2018 19:51

So, it should be- ‘lesbians hold up pro- lesbian banners at Pride and are asked to leave by lesphobic organisers’

Pratchet · 08/07/2018 19:51

Susan, isn't that a confession that pro-trans is anti lesbian? Shock

Think we knew that Garam and Daim

garam · 08/07/2018 19:51

Pratchet people can be attracted to who they want, the false 'trope that trans want sex with people who don't want to' is as old as the hills, and plainly stupid. And comes from nuanced discussion about sexual attraction actually being on a case by case basis for some, but not all.
Nuances that clearly above the head of most transphobes.

Of course anti-trans people have this 'magic' screens shots taken out of context or said by idiots and applied en masse via various propaganda blogs etc.

But you know, theres an amazing lack of lesbians out there who have ever been on the recieving end of that from a trans woman, so the tactic doesn't work, and lesbians support trans women.

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daimbars · 08/07/2018 19:52

Natal female lesbians, are speaking up for trans women, and you bizarrely roll out Darvo?

Yep. Every single time.

Any natal female lesbians on here get repeatedly asked to define a woman, define a lesbian and probably asked x 1000 if we want to sleep with a lady penis. If we don't reply we are informed we have no right to call ourselves lesbians. Then we get accused of being men.

I'm well versed in this by now.

The women harassing lesbians like this call themselves feminists!

anotherangel2 · 08/07/2018 19:52

Please can someone explain what the whole L out thing to me in simple terms. I can’t get my head around what happened.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/07/2018 19:53

No one has linked to this full thread yet

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3299646-Lesbians-protest-at-London-Pride-getthelout

Pflt · 08/07/2018 19:53

How are we defining protestors now?

How dare you Grin

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/07/2018 19:54

So, it should be- ‘lesbians hold up pro- lesbian banners at Pride and are asked to leave by lesphobic organisers’

Quite.

TerfsUp · 08/07/2018 19:54

Oh, the fruit cocktail phrase "natal female lesbians".

OP, there is only one kind of lesbian - women who are sexually attracted only to other women - and there is only one word for it - lesbian.

UglyCathKidstonBag · 08/07/2018 19:54

I’m always glad when people out themselves for what they are. If they want, they can take their pick from the following descriptors

AWALR = Activists Who Sanction Lesbian Rape

Or

VAGS = Violent Activists Gendering Sexuality

Just descriptors though, so don’t be offended. Wink Smile

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 08/07/2018 19:54

Pro women does not = anti trans. No more that pro cat = anti dog.

What 'hate' was being promoted daim?

Pratchet · 08/07/2018 19:55

It's not a case of want, it's a case of orientation and arousal.

What's wrong with saying lesbians are female homosexuals? It's homophobic PLUS rapey to say they should take dick. Also to say they aren't allowed to rule out ALL dick-owners or former dick-owners in the whole world.

Of course they can - they are lesbians. Stop oppressing them.

MissSusanSays · 08/07/2018 19:55

Pratchet

Colour me surprised. Who would have guessed that trans cheerleaders only care about the T?

daimbars · 08/07/2018 19:57

@anotherangel2

London Pride happens once a year and is a celebration of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

All of the above face prejudice and the event is designed to celebrate them all and offer a 'safe space' for them to enjoy themselves.

Yesterday - a group of 10 women hijacked the Pride parade and handed out anti trans leaflets comparing being transgender to 'rape culture' effectively calling trans people rapists.

The GC feminists on here think this is brilliant.

Everyone at Pride was shocked and appalled that these women would choose the one event of the year that trans people should feel safe to distribute leaflets calling them rapists.

UpstartCrow · 08/07/2018 19:58

A lesbian is a female homosexual.

If you think that's anti trans, its because you don't think women have the right to say no to someone with a penis.
It also means you don't support The Equality Act.

Pflt · 08/07/2018 19:58

anti-trans people have this 'magic' screens shots taken out of context

I’m genuinely curious to know how a simple definition of a lesbian can be taken out of context.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 08/07/2018 19:58

What 'hate' was being promoted daim?

Pratchet · 08/07/2018 19:59

Cripes. What kind of pathetic people hate women so much that eight lesbians at a Pride celebration must be universally vilified and reported to the police and the local authorities. What a dismal bunch they are.

BeyondRaggydoll · 08/07/2018 20:00

OP:

"Well I don't know any of those lesbians, so I don't believe you."

Progressive 👍

zzzzz · 08/07/2018 20:01

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Floorplan · 08/07/2018 20:01

docs.google.com/document/d/11227_Kw-NuzPI5kJuY2rxFIRfOaDd7wsvWBeVqUvLLc/edit

The sheer number of lesbians who disgree with the placard that lesbians are female homosexuals

Look at our friend Harrop at no.24

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 08/07/2018 20:01

From watching the march on film it looked like the women at the front were being cheered on.

Don't know if this has been said as not read all of the the other thread but the Penis News man commentating was repeatedly saying that one of the women's banners said 'Transgernderism is erasing lesbians' whereas the many shots of that banner said 'Transactivism is erasing lesbian', huge difference in those 2 statements.

TheFemaleGaze · 08/07/2018 20:02

Wth is a "natal" lesbian even?

BeyondRaggydoll · 08/07/2018 20:02

Oh and how are we defining definition?

Maybe that's where we're going wrong - the definition of "definition" has changed?!

MissSusanSays · 08/07/2018 20:03

There are a lot of dudes on that list.