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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Your peaktrans moment for today! Top this if you can.

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Ritzsaltedcrackers · 25/04/2018 13:21

A woman was thrown out of a FB feminist group for challenging the idea that transwomen get periods.

apparently they DO get periods just without the small aspect of bleeding.

She was told that she was minimising transwomen's periods.

www.facebook.com/beth.rep/posts/10216741083464856

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ScienceIsTruth · 27/04/2018 15:51

@Aunt periods of delusion, I'd say.

CharlieParley · 27/04/2018 16:04

I wish! I used to be but as I've moved into the last hurrah stage of my fertility, I'm all over the shop now. Maybe we should all start charting and weighing and before you know it, you'll be drowning in data...

caringdenise009 · 27/04/2018 16:48

I was watching South Park the other day. In 2005 Mr Garrison got a brand new vagina, and immediately started waiting for his period. When it didn't happen he decided he was pregnant and went to ask for an abortion, to which the Dr replied"you can't have an abortion" "DON'T YOU OPPRESS ME!"

Obviously Life of Brian got there first with Loretta and the gestation box, but someone saw this coming a loooong time ago.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 27/04/2018 18:45

The information you’ve given about cycles is really interesting, bloodmagic. Since I moved to tracking my cycles, I’ve noticed a similar pattern. Day 1-3 of my period is hibernation phase and I want to eat more carbs in the run-up. Round ovulation I have more energy but not much appetite...fascinating to see it is a wider pattern.

grandplans · 27/04/2018 23:56

Absolutely fascinating @Bloodmagic thanks!

I'm never sure where I am exactly in my cycle, my memory is terrible. I think I'm about half way through now but couldn't swear to it.

But this is really interesting, I'm going to start paying attention to it now.

Bloodmagic · 28/04/2018 11:04

@CharlieParley

Yeh I should start tracking myself but I'm not very consistent with that sort of thing. Maybe I will in the future :)

@grandplans

I have to write it in my planner/calendar or I forget as well.

MipMipMip · 28/04/2018 12:11

I was not into feminism. I was into equality, fairness for all. Not pushing men aside and demanding more and more. All this business about men have a better deal is nonsense, we're in GB in the 21st Century. Equality is here, sure women won't get promoted as fast if they're missing time to have maternity leave but when they are there they will.

I read a few threads about the trans issue. Of course trans people should be able to change where they want! They've had ops to get rid of genitalia, they must really feel they are women and are in a bad situation so yes, I'll pretend.

Then I started to hear a few fact. That for many it was a turn on to dress as women and to involve unwilling participants in their fantasies. The numbers who don't seek any medical help, let alone transition. The ones who are wearing their teenage daughters clothing and getting aroused (if anything about your teenage daughter or their belongings gets you aroused there is something very wrong). The crime rates staying the same post transition.

Then there was what was being demanded. Access to women's prisons. Ignore safeguarding. Rape centres and refuges no longer being sacrosanct.

I started hearing instances. A woman going for a smear, requesting a female nurse and being told the man identifies as a woman. A man going into a refuge claiming to be a woman and raping people. Another going in a refuge and when women objected the women being kicked out for being transphobic. A woman questioning being punched. A woman being made to lie in court about gender. A man leading a hate campaign against a women's officer then taking her place. #NoDebate. Meetings to dicuss this being shut down. Police involved for stating facts. Employers called for people disagreeing. Endless endless abuse on Twitter.

So trans did not mean what I thought it meant and these are not people I want in my space.

I started seeing how privileged I am. I have not been raped. I have not been assaulted. I have not had a violent relationship. I have not been obviously used or missed out on things because of my gender.

I had to think of my #metoo moment. I remember it because it was funny (would it have been had I been alone?). How many have I forgotten?

I started to realise that men did have advantages. That a men's pill was developed and scrapped because it had the same side effects women put up with. That when a child is ill it is the woman expected to miss work to deal. That male privilege is real, that the effect is there even if it's not obvious. That men think women dominate a conversation if they speak for 30/. That things really are not equal and even here, in GB in the 21st century, things are not fair and there is a fight to be had.

There are a lot of things happening right now. Knowledge of FGM. Rapes in India. #MeToo. Rotherham. But it was these boards, with the mix of voices, full of facts and arguments, personal experiences and shared stories, that brought be to this very angry point. I don't like having my eyes opened. But they needed to be and sadly I learn more to horrify me everyday.

I am a feminist.

Thank you ladies.

MipMipMip · 28/04/2018 13:07

I should point out I haven't mentioned puberty blockers for teens, hugh rates of changed minds, targeting lesbians, appropriating language etc. I have become a better, more open minded person over this.

c75kp0r · 28/04/2018 13:35

Apologies if this has already been done, as I too am only just getting my head round this scenario. My question is, logically what happens to the argument if we all just self-identified as transwomen? Lol they’d have me sectioned at work I suspect as Im usually in the hyacinth bucket or vera stanhope old bat category

sanluca · 28/04/2018 13:59

Mipmipmip, welcome to the club (insert witch like cackling here 😀)

MipMipMip · 28/04/2018 14:25

Thank you Sanluca. I can cackle with the best of them.

AskBasil · 28/04/2018 14:50

Welcome to the coven, Mip.

MipMipMip · 28/04/2018 15:32

Thanks Basil.

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