All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?

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It seems that India is a little obsessed and is even now actively encouraging brands to stop advertising with Mumsnet.
A picture of a 17 year old with a semi in a skirt will stop a baby formula brand wanting to be associated apparently twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/987348210858577921?s=20

It's really little wonder that women go back to beginning and re-draw the line in the sand, with the determination to ignore preferred pronouns, etc.

Exactly - give an inch and they take the whole concept of measuring..

That is a picture of AGP in action. Females, and especially teenaged girls should not be used as compulsory props in anyone's fetish, no matter how vulnerable or young or anything else. This individual is a long way from a gender dysphoric girl or boy who does everything they can to try and hide or tape down their natural anatomy at great discomfort or risk to their health to achieve the change in sex they want. Gender dysphoria and AGP are two very different things, and conflating them is damaging for everyone. Trying to shame women out of noticing this or voicing their concerns is a bit of a desperate tactic really.

Rat Whilst I don't often agree with you I do really appreciate your contributions to the debate here on the feminist boards.

Assigned I almost always agree with you and get that you're angry. We all get rages with this stuff.

Right, I'm off out to sit in the sunshine. It's got me in a good mood... to everyone!

But that isn't where the photo was taken.

Where the photo was taken is irrelevant to my point, which was that we are not talking about a poor innocent child, we are talking about a young man who has committed actions that would be undeniably viewed as a sexual offence if he didn't call himself trans.

Those of us who view this person as a male sex offender think that a picture of them clearly semi aroused in a tiny skirt in public at a school (where hundreds of girls have spoken out about his behaviour btw) is something notable and worthy of comment.

It's really little wonder that women go back to beginning and re-draw the line in the sand, with the determination to ignore preferred pronouns, etc.

Yes, this ^

India has just introduced Cow & Gate to Lila Perry

Well that oughta do it

In the UK the age of consent is 16. In The Sun newspaper they would get 16 year old girls to bare their breasts on page 3 and they would be discussed in detail.

Not wanting to get into an equality men-do-it so women-can-do-it-too thing but I was thinking this too.

And again we are talking about a political movement that loudly advocates for "sex positivity" and activity in some cases at young (much younger than Lila) ages (Jane Fae for example), where thirteen year old lesbians have been called transphobic for saying they would not want to experience penis (tumblr..).

Calling us pervs for noticing them.

And Shon Faye certainly has some dubious suggestions

Another one.

But we're the ones being out of order.

Cross post, thinking alike.

Janet Mock:

"I was 15 the first time I visited Merchant Street, what some would call “the stroll” for trans women involved in street-based sex work. At the time, I had just begun medically transitioning and it was where younger girls, like my friends and myself, would go to hang out, flirt and fool around with guys and socialize with older trans women, the legends of our community."

"These women were the first trans women I met, and I quickly correlated trans womanhood and sex work."

"These women taught me that nothing was wrong with me or my body and that if I wanted they would show me the way, and it was this underground railroad of resources created by low-income, marginalized women, that enabled me when I was 16 to jump in a car with my first regular and choose a pathway to my survival and liberation."

Who is sexualising kids again?

India has just introduced Cow & Gate to Lila Perry

It is very funny.

Paris Lees promotes prostitution and Jane Fae is an advocate for kink, sexual 'freedoms'.

Basically gay/bi males with no idea of what it feels like to be female in a world of unwanted male sexual attention/imposition.

Maybe that is it - that they are so on side with the male pervs perspective that they even view female victims words and actions through that male perv filter.

Trousers

TBH I'm beginning to think India is a double agent

Another: Alison Woolbert was made Executive Director of the Transgender Human Rights Institute (US) "after her 1991 conviction for First Degree Aggravated Sexual Assault. The victim was a 15-year-old relative. Woolbert was sentenced to six years for the aggravated assault for which she served four. Woolbert was 28 at the time of the offence."

The THRI rejected Alison's resignation after this came out.

lgbtweekly.com/2015/01/15/allison-woolberts-resignation-an-object-lesson-on-the-value-of-thorough-vetting/

The list could go on and on tbh so I'll stop now.

Rat have you ever approached a trans activist or organisation about their attitude towards sex and young people?

Genuinely baffled. They are tweeting it to Julia Hartley-Brewer. I mean FFS.

I've already suggested that IW is a double agent assigned, as far back as when IW was in CBB!

Surely no one could promote a cause this badly without being on the other side!

If my child was waving his erection around the girl's locker room he'd have a lot more to worry about than MN I can assure you.

I shouldn't laugh I know please don't tell me off but when you see posts like this on Twitter, what else can you do?

It is possible that IW behavior is a reminder that NPD is co-morbid with BID in 80% of cases.

Agreed, Datun. I stopped engaging with Rat for exactly that reason. Though I suppose it may be useful to people who're on the fence to see just how low those determined to shoehorn penis into women's spaces at all costs will sink.

Though I suppose it may be useful to people who're on the fence to see just how low those determined to shoehorn penis into women's spaces at all costs will sink.
Yy very true.
It makes me think a new word 'penis-horning' should be coined to go with the gaslighting, sealioning and trolling..

Really didn't need that mental image!

Like a shoe horn, but squishy.

I find IWs obsession with MN so bizarre and spiteful

I'm sure IW could say the same about MN (and I include myself here) during and post CBB. Loads of posts absolutely slating IW and a number of threads specifically and exclusively about IW. I don't think it's really that surprising that IW has such an issue with MN.