All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?

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It seems that India is a little obsessed and is even now actively encouraging brands to stop advertising with Mumsnet.
A picture of a 17 year old with a semi in a skirt will stop a baby formula brand wanting to be associated apparently twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/987348210858577921?s=20

Sorry should have added this

Giuliana is doing the same thing, she is posting (name of brand) Your brand is seriously damaged by association with mumsnet, a cess pit of transphobic hatred according to one of its own recent employees. The transgender community invites you to disassociate from and condemn the hate crime on mumsnet.

One example here All they want is to close down MN - It aint happening.
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I can't believe semi-gate is seriously thought to be appropriate for a baby formula provider.

Surely they could have found something more compelling?

I thought Mumsnet didn't accept ads from formula companies?

No, they don't.

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Here:

"We do not accept advertising from a number of companies including Nestle, because of their aggressive marketing of formula in breach of international standards, and for a number of products, including formula milk, cosmetic surgery or anything that we believe does not sit well with our philosophy – namely to make parents' lives easier."

But you knock yourself out, India.

Bit light on the research again, hey?

But generally I think this is brilliant - the more people that see the picture of that trans teen in a short skirt and erection*, the better. Peak trans, right there.

• I couldn't remember their name - but top tip, don't google "trans teen short skirt erection"

I think its rather concerning who India has chosen to join forces with (I think India might have used her investigative journalism skills a little better) taking screen shots and then providing commentary isn't going to be as effective when people are following up to find the actual thread and discussion....

taking screen shots and then providing commentary isn't going to be as effective when people are following up to find the actual thread and discussion....

Exactly - any prejudice about conversation topics being 'mumsy' will be well and truly shattered... we'll get more joining.

That is actually funny, ask people prudishly to look at an article and be outraged at anyone mentioning the unmentionables and see how all the girls in the school walked out because they were begin forced to?

Mind boggling.

Oh dearie.

Crack on if they want to post pics of Lila Perry though

Oh I wonder who the baby food/nappy makers would rather advertise to. Women or...

TBC I think online spats with ‘media career’ folk like India are probably doing more harm than good.

I think the thoughtful discussions that went on before as regarding policy and how it affects women and children are being lost and that’s a pity as these are important points.

We are just women trying to get out point across about our concerns, trying to be heard above all the noise around this.

Perhaps we should just leave these Twitter warriors to their keyboards and continue to voice our concerns about how this affects around healthcare, education and employment opportunities for women.

At the end of they day, whatever you want to call us, only one group of people are having babies here!

Lila won't be a child anymore. The whole furore over the school bathroom was 2015 so I think they will be about 19 or 20.

Maybe more articles/blogposts/media/videos on mumsnet/women's side soon will help. Another petition aimed at advertisers? A protest even? So they know that we have the numbers and the ethical position and the tactics the opposition is using. Terrorism aimed at women is an accurate description of what trans activists are doing and we should make sure that people know that. I'm fed up with TGLWGH tbh because their tactics are so low I just don't get what we are doing there - exposing trans activist tactics as widely as possible would be more effective. There are so many pics and videos of masked and kitted up protesters harrassing women, add that to the threats received by individuals and venues etc and expose it as much as possible. I thought Posie reading the online threats out loud was hugely effective, we need mainstream media to start covering that. People will be aghast at that and that politicians ignoring it. They'll wonder who will be attacked next. The police letting it happen will also shock. More pictures/footage of regular women talking about what has been done to them.

Sorry for the stream of thought but I just don't think TGLWGH on mumsnet is the most effective tactic esp as whatever we say just gets spun anyway.

The thing is you don’t represent women or mumsnet. Many many women who use these boards disagree with your views and are frustrated by the femisnism section being dominated by never ending debate on trans issues. I see the logic of some of the points made about female spaces, performing femininity and the danger of labelling children who aren’t ready to make life altering decisions. I am a woman (born with a vagina), I am a mother, I’m a feminist and I think taking a picture of a teenager and pointing out their genitals is abhorrent. To imply women/mumsent are on one side and people who support trans rights are on the other isn’t honest.

I think taking a picture of a (then) child like that and putting it on an internet forum is wrong

I think putting the same picture all over twitter is just as bad

In fact i think its worse

Gross hypocrisy

I agree that MN represents a wide range of views, including mine that for a teenaged young adult with a hard on and no pants under a short skirt with a history of obviously sexual and provocative posing to be held up as someone who should be in girls' changing rooms and then being called a 'child' and someone feminists should not be talking about is bonkers.

If this isn't about women and girls' rights what is? Being silent about issues that aren't pretty or nice is unfortunately something that has to be done, to prevent this kind of sexual dominance display being normalised and inflicted on teenaged girls. And incidentally severely damaging the image and sympathy for teenagers with gender dysphoria. To me, staying silent about that and looking the other way is abhorrent.

YMMV. The thing is, here we talk about it. We exchange the views, we explain different POVs. Without calling each other names, doxxing each other, thumping each other or making violent threats, or announcing that the other person is vile and subhuman for not agreeing.

And i agree with knee

Well another 48.4k people have it to look at now.

I agree that MN represents a wide range of views, including mine that for a teenaged young adult with a hard on and no pants under a short skirt with a history of obviously sexual and provocative posing to be held up as someone who should be in girls' changing rooms and then being called a 'child' and someone feminists should not be talking about is bonkers.

Exactly.