A Woman's Place is Speaking up in Wales (Cardiff Meeting next week)

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Just wanted to see who is going to this, and let Mumsnetters know it is happening if you didn't already. It's going to be a great meeting I think - with a choir singing too!

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-speaking-up-in-wales-tickets-43752975327

my initial reaction was to question myself in supporting WPUK. My rational self tells me that I am being gaslighted

Bing this is true for me too.

That's a great idea to offer your ticket to that mp
Extend the invitation to debate, listen to all arguments
I doubt she will take up the offer but do it officially and maybe she could come
Who knows

As expected, more than a few people I know are signed up as either interested or attending the 'support our trans community from hate' rally. Some of them I've known for years, and quite like as individuals. But it's so disappointing that they're unable or unwilling to think critically about what self-ID means for women & girls as a sex-class, and choose instead to interpret those of us wanting to talk about it as 'hating' trans people - that's some strange, circular logic that only works if you concede that those born female have fewer rights to discuss our needs and rights, to preserve our bodily dignity when vulnerable, and be protected from violence than those born male who 'idenify' as women. I find that really alarming, and inevitably think rather less of them as a result.

Yes @Kalikan . I have been in that position too. Baffles me why anyone would dismiss so many kind, tolerant women as hate filled.

Which MP is attending? I don’t do Facebook.

Looking on the bright side, perhaps it will cut down on harrassment outside of the WPUK venue...

Anna McMorrin. Cardiff North MP.

Thanks Vix.

I'm going. Taking a friend's daughter who's interested in gender politics, so I really hope there's no trouble.

Disappointing that it's equated to hate - we just have to stand firm if questioned and pushed about this.

Well done for engaging them!

Just to be clear as this is my first meeting, do I just wait for an email alert?

Also, I just realised, my friend bought her daughter the ticket so her daughters name isn't on it - what'll happen there?

The fact that the venue cannot be revealed until tomorrow (cf the Millwall cancellation) just shows that feminist women are not the problem here - the problem lies with those who seek to deny women the right to meet and to discuss matters affecting women.
This is an atrocious situation.

Just to add - I am not at all criticising the fact that arrangements have to be kept confidential. I fully understand this a necessity. And it is a necessity (cf the Millwall cancellation).

It's just the fact that, in 2018 FFS, feminist women have to be secretive about meeting with each other in order to discuss the rights of women and girls!

Anyway, if anyone spots me, I will be happy to buy you a drink

@CisMyArse. I think tickets are non transferable, so perhaps email the organisers with the dds name ?

Just seen on Twitter that tomorrow's event is sold out!

Yay! Thanks for the information! Very much looking forward to it!

Just seen on Twitter that tomorrow's event is sold out!

Yay!!! Looking forward to the updates.

Sold out . Great! How many people is that I wonder ? I am really looking forward to it but worrying about conflict outside. Then I feel furious that in 2018 a group of largely women can’t meet to discuss a political issue that affects women, without fearing aggression. How has it come to this ? What has happened to this country ?

I feel worried about potential issues outside the venue too. What happened at Hyde Park (and in other places) is disgusting and an ironically typical display of male aggression.

I think the organisers are well aware of the Hyde Park incident, and much more besides. Which is why it is all ticket, venue announced late on and there is security. All the WPUK events have been fine so far .

Im going. Im really looking forward to it

• gets distracted by the words David Tennant ....

I'm not going, but, out of interest, when and how is the location revealed?

(Please don't actually say the location!)

You give them all your details and they let you know nearer the time. I don't think it is helpful to go into more detail. It has worked very well so far.