ITV 8pm Tonight programme on the trans debate

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Be interesting if it actually gets debated.

Given that it's regressive sexist nonsense?

Unfortunately for you, it isn't.

NOBODY is taking your kids to the clinic!

That's EXACTLY what they're fucking doing. That IS our problem with this!

Like the PIE scandal, Eresh. I'll give this one a year to finally break this time, given that social media and prime time publicity will make it quicker hopefully.

I actually think a few people 'transing' their very young children with puberty blockers and talking about future surgeries have what used to be called Munchausens By Proxy.

We're not shutting up. We're peak transing people. We're making them aware of what is happening. I guess you and your TRA friends will have to accept that.

That's EXACTLY what they're fucking doing.

No they aren't. No school is promoting hormonal drug use. That is fact.

NOBODY is taking your kids to the clinic! Send them to school safe in the knowledge there will be NO trips down to Tavistock. Relax all.

Well, you’re obviously not as informed as you think you are.

Oh yes it is. "Non binary" is meaningless bullshit. Either everyone is, or no one.

Actually this could be Munchausens by Troxy.

Lizziesiddal Are you that scared your child will want to be a different gender to the one you had in mind for them? You and many others genuinely sound terrified.

The vast majority do not agree with this shit. They're just not aware of it. It's snuck in, under the guise of "you're on the wrong side of history if you don't go with this".

Well we're not - NEVER in the history of the world has the right side of history been drugging our kids with hormones, and committing them to major surgery and sterility - just because they don't conform to gender norms.

No we don't, incorruptible. We sound in control. You sound like the scared one.

Night all. It’s getting close to midnight - heed the moral of Gremlins. Keep feeding ‘em after midnight at your own peril.

Good point, boat! Night

Absolutely. NO FEEDING THE GREMLINS AFTER MIDNIGHT

NOBODY is taking your kids to the clinic! Send them to school safe in the knowledge there will be NO trips down to Tavistock. Relax all.

But they are teaching them a fucking religion that I don't fucking believe in. I do not expect my children (although they are grown up now) to be taught a religious belief in sex and relationships education.

It makes no bones to me whether they're teaching them that the eucharist is actually the blood and body of Christ, or that they will be reincarnated when they die, or that they have a specially gendered innate fucking soul. All religion. All inappropriate to teach in sex and relationships education.

If I wanted any kids to be inculcated into genderism, aka Scientology 2.0, I'd say so. I don't. Human beings don't have souls, gendered or otherwise, and the regressive, faith-based, sexist, homophobic crapola peddled by Mermaid and GIRES should have no inclusion in places of secular education. Especially when it could very well result in some of them being subject to medical experimentation that will leave them not only sterile but without any sexual function whatsoever. For fucking life.

Are you that scared your child will want to be a different gender to the one you had in mind for them?

Nobody's scared of our children being non gender conforming - because gender stereotypes are bullshit - bullshit that we have been fighting fot decades.

Stop pumping kids full of hormones - it's child abuse.

Nothing is more binary than trans ideology. Trans away the gay!
God forbid people should be gender non conforming. They might escape their box, or actually start to think for themselves.

You really are misusing language here. What does “having a gender in mind” actually mean?.

And I’m far from terrified, just very angry that the agenda of a tiny percentage of the population is being forced onto 51% of the population (women).

And my dc are in their 20s and are very happy with their sex.

Your little boys aren't going to come home wanting a skirt for their birthday.

My little boy got a skirt for his birthday. It's a glittery pink tutu in fact. H and M at its very best. It hasn't made him a girl. And it hasn't made me any less of a TERF

We're witnessing state-sanctioned child abuse. We find this upsetting and wrong. We're also perfectly certain that an avalanche of lawsuits will put a stop to it sooner or later, we're just doing our best to make it sooner because then fewer children and young people will be harmed.

We're happy for them to be masculine, feminine, neither or both, gay, lesbian, straight or bi, nudists or historical re-enactment buffs. We just don't want them poisoned with drugs that cause osteoparosis and cognitive deficits, sterilised or surgically mutilated just because a fucked-up society has brainwashed them into thinking there's something wrong with their perfect healthy bodies.

We feed the lurkers and not the Gremlins themselves

This child transition agenda has not come from a good place. Here's Miranda Yardley:

To understand why the focus has moved onto children, look to the YouTube discussion between TransYouth Family Allies executive director Kim Pearson and transgender activist Autumn Sandeen, who states:

"I’ve always said there are two groups that are going to make change in transgender legislation and the “gender identity and expression” related language in legislation. It’s going to be trans youth because … they demystify it and take the sex right out of the trans experience.”
Pearson responds with:

"Right. And it’s hard to say no to kids, and the needs of kids and “keeping kids safe”. And you know, “being respected in schools” and things like that. It’s really hard for people to say no to that.”

http://mirandayardley.com/en/this-is-an-all-out-political-war-the-gender-recognition-act-and-beyond/

My bold.

As I said before, incorruptibledream - you didn't invent this. Gender non-conformity is as old as time.

We can practise gender non-conformity without being told in primary school that we may be the opposite sex and can take some pills and turn into the other sex.

This is categorically and demonstrably untrue. Nobody can turn into the opposite sex - in 1000 years time if they dig up your bones, you will be identified as the sex you were born as, In the meantime -none of us have a problem with you not conforming to gender norms.

Seriously folks

This agenda advocates the sterilisation of gay kids, kids on the autistic spectrum, kids with a trauma history who can't accept their bodies.

This is eugenics. It's not progressive.