ITV 8pm Tonight programme on the trans debate

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Be interesting if it actually gets debated.

Like pp terf and granny have said, why the heck can't men and boys wear makeup, frocks and have long hair any more? They were all very gorgeous in the 1980s, with their eyeliner and kilts / skirts and long dyed hair.

Men did expand their space back then. A lot of men stopped being so homophobic, for a start.

What's happening now - this colonisation of women's space - is horribly manipulative; and is itself homophobic. How Stonewall can't see that, suggests they've been infiltrated by some right nasty bastards who are hiding behind the 'Right On' shield.

Goldmonday
There was a transwoman talking about the 30+ genders and how if you didn't accept that you had to 'get with the program'. Then another transwoman introducing her/him/self as a lesbian to a group of incredulous looking teenage boys. Paris Lees going on about 48% suicide rates. Proud father of trans young teenager showing his/her 'journey' scrapbook with emply boxes of drugs (totally safe according to dad) glued around glitter. Cue more parents with their transing kids - one of which was 7 yo(!). Three mumsnet-type mums as the only dissenting voices and some education chap trying to be reasonable.

Is there a slim chance it might peak trans a load of people who hadn't given much thought to this before now?

Fuming watching this

What an utter farce that was. Paris fucking Lees, a ‘lesbian ‘ transwoman, virtue cookie seeking mother of a 7 year old trans child, ‘entirely reversible ‘ treatment..it was like playing TRA bingo.

Could someone please post an underlined hashtag so I could follow this- I'm not on twitter. The programme was awful and confirmed as if I needed it confirmed, that transthing is an evil plot to destroy society. Jeezlooeeze

twitter.com/search?q=%23ITVTonight&src=tyah

Try this.

twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%23ITVTonight&src=tyah

Or this.

It's #ITVTonight

twitter.com/hashtag/transkids?src=hash

One more.

Oh god this was horrendous.

I am so scared for the future of our children.

terf cheers for hashtags.

an evil plot to destroy society.

Dear me. Because kids want to explore gender in a way you didn't ? As the guest said... get with the programme!

I couldn't bear to watch it.
Too worried it would be a load of crap.
Was it?
(Haven't dared even read the thread yet).

Get stuffed incorruptibledream

I spent my teens dancing to this:

Don't start thinking you've inventing it.

You don't need to feed kids hormones. That make them sterile.

Paris also calling the Tavi doctors 'paranoid'. If I were an experienced professional putting the healthcare of vulnerable people as my priority, I might feel a bit affronted at that.

Because kids want to explore gender in a way you didn't ?

And we didn't in the late 1970s and the 1980s?? You ignorant buffoon, as Michael Palin might riposte.

Gender benders, Greenham Common, Two-Tone, punk, New romanticism, gay pride, Quentin Crisp, the Poison Girls and Ripley.

Soft Cell playing final gig soon :(

We managed gender bending in the 70's and 80's without feeding kids drugs - imagine that?!

I wont watch but twitter is reassuring. My goes to...
Sorry but if I had a pound for every gender there is I’d have £2

Medicating children is not 'exploring' anything. Its irreversible damage.

Its not difficult to realise that 20 years ago, huge numbers of children did not attempt suicide because they believed they were the wrong sex.

Child abuse and cynical drug industry

In the 1980s I experimented with my sexuality. We also supported our gay male friends who had to wrestle with the growing fear of aids and their hiv status. We marched for rights and took recreational drugs, painted our faces, wore crazy clothes and dyed our hair like rainbows.

We didn't fuck about with children's bodies. Because that would be sick.

The more oxygen this issue gets, the better. Think people, think!!!

Is this gender bollox on the National Curriculum? Are all schools teaching it? I will remove my child from any lesson that reinforces gender stereotypes, I spend way tooo much time challenging gender stereotypes at home only for school to go and undo my good work, but I have not heard about it from our school. Do I have to ask the head if they will be teaching it? What age group is targeted? Any help appreciated please, and I don’t care if they (school) think I am a raging feminist (I am now) and my husband is even more livid about all this than I am.