ITV 8pm Tonight programme on the trans debate

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Be interesting if it actually gets debated.

I'm actually impressed that it's been reasonably well balanced so far.... giving both sides and fairly dispassionately.

There will be no mention of autistic or vulnerable children.

And now we get dad telling us that the puberty blockers and totally reversible.

15 mins in and I can't believe the bias. Glossed over sex of a person and straight into multi genders

Think it’s been quite balanced so far, not pushing either side just opinions and experiences.

Bloody hell though, did they say 75 genders? That’s utterly ridiculous. I understand Transwoman, woman, trans man, man.. but the rest is just undeniable bollocks IMO.

That dad is just sooooo right on.

That's what it's all about really, isn't it?

Why is it aleady being taught in schools anyway?

Are there any 15 year olds who aren't INTENSE? Isn't that the whole point of being 15?

Indeed. But as an adult you just DONT UNDERSTAND.

God, I bet teachers think wistfully of the days when rebellion was wearing black lipstick.

7 yrs old. Seven.

Living as a boy since 4 years old! How does a child that age 'know'?

70 genders yet still only 2 sexes
What is gender if not personality, likes and dislikes
I hate that they frame it that the mothers are behind the times
They haven't mentioned sexless, sterile children

Just saw the bit about the 7 year old that has been living as a boy for a year, and I'm almost crying.

I have a serious issue with a transwoman presenting themselves as a lesbian female ex-commando to schoolchildren without clarifying properly. It's just untruthful.

Exactly, it's just bloody personality. There is no gender spectrum.

I've seen that awful woman on something before, with that poor child. It comes across as being all her. She should be prosecuted.

This programme is like an extended brochure for transitioning.

Think it will be posted here to watch again at some point www.itv.com/hub/tonight/1a2803

The false suicide statistics - maybe a complain needed about them breaching the Samaritan's guidelines. Or a question on the facebook page about it?

I still think the whole thing is going to implode on itself spectacularly.

Sorry, not read the thread, but I just caught the last 10 minutes of this and I'm fucking RAGING 😤

A 7 yr old trans boy?! FUCK YOU! That is NOT OK. How fucking DARE they put that on her.

That FB page will be jumping, hopefully....

I had no concept of this stuff at 7. But I was raised in the 70's - and there was no 'boys' and 'girls' Lego then...

Fuck. I'm pretty sure I didn't 'want' to be a girl or a boy at 7, I wanted to be rolling around in the dirt as much as the next boy - or girl - or watching Tiswas. There really weren't many rigid gender stereotypes in the 70's - kids were just kids as I remember. I spent half of my childhood in stretchy navy nylon trouser things. And an orange and brown polar neck jumper. I'm in no doubt at all I am a woman. Because biology.

What are we doing to our children?

I can't watch. It won't do my blood pressure any favours and there are kids in the house.

How are we doing?

Not a debate at all. Simply a programme saying tough shit, we will be teaching your primary school age children that women now have dicks.

There was a bloke on This Morning yesterday who had spent £££ on surgery to become an elf. (Lord of the rings style not Santa's helper) Trans species apparantly.
He had major issues growing up and is escaping reality.

They did sound like mumsnet mothers.