Was Greer Right When She Said Men Hate Women?

[LastGirlOnTheLeft]

I have just skim read The Female Eunuch and like everyone else, the stand out line to me was that men hate us but we aren't aware of the extent, and neither are they!!

Do you think this is true?? My DH, my late father and my brother, all immensely like/d and love/d the women in their lives. I hate to think it is true, but if it is, I want to know! I want to know my enemy.

Hmm. See Ray has not answer the very specific question I asked i.e.. what does he think is behind male violence to women?

He simply deflected to NAMALT.

So Ray what IS behind male violence to women?

Do you watch porn Ray? If you do, what proportion of porn on the sites you use have rapes, violence, unwanted anal, head-holding during blow jobs, deep-throating, gagging, strangulation, fake/deceit stuff and the word 'teen'? And contempt, lack of care, lack of attention to female pleasure and a lack of basic biological understanding?

Deeply unpleasant, thankfully short, time studying this told me all I need to know.

But to say ALL men hate women, well that’s just pathetic

Bless you. You might want to watch that video I posted at the top.

Ray is getting ready to go out and Rays wife is scowling in a violent manner.
I shall post later when I have more time.

Was just pondering the question you also dodged though.

If women where physically stronger than men, do you think the stats would mirror those of today. (I’m not excusing any violence btw).

No.......

A small amount of women kill men, are violent towards men, shall I deduct from that that ALL women hate men?

Don't most women who kill men do it because they have been abused and finally snap? Not many harass, stalk, torment and execute men for shits and giggles.

So man kills woman= mans fault
Woman kills man= mans fault

ray what's your evidence that men don't hate women? Or at the very least are indifferent to their situation.
It's really hard when 2 women a week are killed by men, when 96% of men accused of rape get off, when sites like pornhub feature increasingly violent abuse of women as sexy, and when men generally comment on all this to support the status quo, argue not all men are like that, women do it too and men's lives are ruined, not to at the very least think most men couldn't give a shit.
I would love to see evidence to the contrary but all I see is men complaining their feelings are hurt when it's discussed.

Last message for a bit.

Men aren’t just indifferent to women but I’d suggest to everyone including other men. In fact I’d say more likely than not that if a man was being publicly violent towards a woman, most men if physically able would step in. Yet wouldn’t if the roles where reversed. There are some interesting social experiments showing this on YouTube although not conclusive.

Not answering the porn question? Huh.

So man kills woman= mans fault
Woman kills man= mans fault

If women are killing men because they have been abused and snap, then are you saying that is their fault for letting themselves be abused?

Women choose to be in prison over coming out, because their partners or ex partners are so abusive. Being in prison is safer than being on the outside. Is that women's fault?

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/24/vulnerable-uk-women-prison-mental-health

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2014/apr/22/prison-women-trauma-stephanie-covington

Tell us Ray, what you think might be behind male violence towards women - the two women a week murdered by their partner or ex-partner for instance?

I think if men really DID hate women the murder rate would be 2 a minute not a week.

Quintin sorry I couldn’t resist.

How do you prove a negative.
Most people believe in a god, there are churches and places of worship all over the world, books written ect.
Your question is a bit like asking me to prove god doesn’t exist.

Some men are evil criminals, I’m arguing that most men don’t hate women but of course some undoubtedly do. But my argument isn’t about gender, I’m saying that women maybe wouldn’t be any better if they where physically stronger. Hence the levitating above the rest of us remark.

No I’ve no interest in porn.

I think if men really DID hate women the murder rate would be 2 a minute not a week.

Not necessarily, murdering the person you are abusing does tend to become rather tiresome. Men would then have to get off their butts and go find someone else to abuse. Men only tend to murder women - especially when in a relationship - when the woman is about to or has just left the relationship. Hence refuges. Safe places, away from other fucking men.

This isn't about all men hating all women, this is about men as a class hating women as a class.

Go on, watch the fucking video that I posted - it explains the position.

If it actually were a minority of men, Ray, the vast majority of men could have put a stop to the rape torture and abuse of women long since. Instead, men buy and sell the rape torture and abuse of women as entertainment.

I'm not surprised she thought that, her father was cold and distant and her husband was a pig.

Can’t we have a chat without the anger Tellseveryone?

Men like very much to believe, and in fact are terrified by the idea, that the people they abuse for generations would do the same to them.
Thus the hypothetical of female violence justifies the reality of male violence.

We are not chatting with you, Ray. You are insulting us and we are expressing our anger over it.

Fuckoff Ray.....that enough anger for you?? Oh look man trying to stop women being angry.....gee never heard that before 🤔🤔

Is it fair to deduce that men also hate other men too?

They do try and put a stop to it, it’s called the law. Not perfect, In many ways it’s far from perfect but to suggest that men stand by while women are raped and murdered is a bit of a stretch.

Can’t we have a chat without the anger Tellseveryone?

Who is angry? Women can swear you know. Whenever the fuck they like. It doesn't mean they are angry - just tired of this same old fucking shit day in day fucking out. Change the fucking record. Or better still, get off your fucking arse and go and campaign for violent men to actually be locked up, and kept off the streets if it matters so much to you.

Hate doesn't have to equal murder or even physical violence - what a bizarrely high bar to set.