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Lily Madigan - C4 news tonight

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WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 06/12/2017 19:04

Just switched over to Channel 4 News and Lily Madigan is going to be on it.

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PersianCatLady · 11/12/2017 19:54

Some people believe in unicorns, doesn't make them real.

Honestly, a few years ago these issues would have been classed as MH issues.

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WTAFisthisshit · 11/12/2017 19:55

My child goes to school with a girl who's 'having a sex change when she's older so she can father a child with her girlfriend' she's read something on the net and will not be told otherwise. So it is possible that Lily genuinely believes some really deluded stuff. WTAF is being taught in biology these days?

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WTAFisthisshit · 11/12/2017 19:57

The comments under the sky news article on Facebook (mostly men) were pretty clear they thought Lily was a mental health disorder. Lily is doing trans woman an even bigger disservice than she's doing woman.

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Fekko · 11/12/2017 19:59

WTA how old is the girl though? And hasn't anyone told her?

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WTAFisthisshit · 11/12/2017 20:00

16! After I'd convinced my daughter she was wrong, she tried to tell her but she was having none of it. She's read something on the internet and I'm wrong.

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KathyBeale · 11/12/2017 20:01

I was listening to the Dan Snow thing on R4 earlier, which has recordings of men who fought in the First World War. It's very moving and it struck me that lots of them would have been the same age as Lily and I had a real flash of rage at how self-centred she is.

I would have a lot more respect for her if she said in an interview: "All this attention on me is taking attention away from the issues. Let's talk about the massive threat to funding for women's refuges that's being debated in parliament this week..."

I read the comments on Twitter and this one made me laugh...

Lily Madigan - C4 news tonight
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PersianCatLady · 11/12/2017 20:03

I wouldn't be surprised if Lily set up that account

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Fekko · 11/12/2017 20:05

Poise Parker must be on here somewhere!

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MillicentFawcett · 11/12/2017 20:10

She is @Fekko Grin

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OlennasWimple · 11/12/2017 20:15

Another toe-curlingly embarassing interview there. I liked the phrasing from the interviewer, though, on the suggestions that LM couldn't be a women's officer as "she hadn't been a woman since birth"

I know that it's technically incorrect (little babies are girls, not women) but it seems a good way to talk about the issue without getting into "cis" or "natal" or accused of TERF-iness

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HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 11/12/2017 20:25

Lily is doing trans woman an even bigger disservice than she's doing woman.

Yes. She is doing great harm to trans people. Had the first trans political party person been the officer for libraries or arts funding or animal welfare, just someone getting on with their life without wanting a fuss, I doubt many of us would mind.

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poshme · 11/12/2017 20:44

THIS:
'Lily only sees the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the facade of performing the role of woman is what will sink her as a women’s officer.'

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poshme · 11/12/2017 20:45

Actually, having seen the pregnant tweet, and the tweets asking for money I think it's an elaborate scam.

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OlennasWimple · 11/12/2017 20:47

Had the first trans political party person been the officer for libraries or arts funding or animal welfare, just someone getting on with their life without wanting a fuss, I doubt many of us would mind.

LM isn't the very first trans person to hold a party political position, though. Annoyingly this Wiki page has been conflated to be the first LGBT post holders in the UK, but the first out trans councillor was way back in 1997

LM is the first transwoman to be an elected party political Women's Officer, though.

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OlennasWimple · 11/12/2017 20:47

I was going to donate to poor LM but I don't want to risk triggering or deadnaming by giving money to an account under the name of Liam Sad

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WhoWants2Know · 11/12/2017 20:56

Exactly! Even if she had gone for the LGBT officer post and done a good job, people would have fewer issues. But to go for the Women’s Officer post (having hounded the WO in a neighbouring constituency out of a job) and spend so much time grandstanding, is distasteful.

I can’t see any way it can end well for her or the party. She’ll either be martyred or disgraced.

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HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 11/12/2017 21:07

I wasn’t aware there was already a trans person in a political position.
Back in 1997 as well. Well done to them.

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 11/12/2017 21:08

Sometimes this issue makes me scream with rage, seethe with frustration and sob with despair but thanks to you wonderful women I can also laugh like a drain at the bampottery of what we are expected to accept as reasonable and normal

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BatShite · 11/12/2017 22:01

DW I still have the screenshots as I'm sure do plenty of others.

The gofundme thing..thats for SRS? I wonder how much he will make from that one.

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WTAFisthisshit · 11/12/2017 22:28

Batshite that's been up since January, last time I looked nothing. Seems to be doing better on twitter being a minor 'celeb'.

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Potato25 · 12/12/2017 00:30

From the Sky interview: "No woman has the same experiences as another [....] I can represent people better who are young, who are trans"

I think he'll find that the majority of women DO have the same experiences (catcalling, other forms of harassment, menstruation, pregnancy, daily misogyny etc).
He's not giving a different female perspective in politics, he is shitting all over women's issues with a male view. What the fuck does he know about being a woman?? The whole point of the job is not to represent trans people because this is a woman's position about representation of women. Shame on you Labour Party.

Cannot believe this is actually happening.

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todaywasgoodtodaywasfun · 12/12/2017 00:34

There was a trans Labour councillor in Lambeth in 1987.

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todaywasgoodtodaywasfun · 12/12/2017 00:37

She was out. Surprised Lambeth doesn't appear on that wiki.

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