Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan - C4 news tonight

548 replies

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 06/12/2017 19:04

Just switched over to Channel 4 News and Lily Madigan is going to be on it.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
Thehairthebod · 11/12/2017 13:36

Also, I know that Lily is not currently in a position of public office, but they have made it clear that they want to be the first 'trans' MP (me, me, it's all about meeeeeeeee!) Does Lily not realise that horrific abuse both on social media and in real life (actual murder in the case of Jo Cox) is simply part and parcel of being a woman in the public eye?

The likes of Jess Philips, Stella Creasey and Mhairi Black may sometimes draw attention to the abuse the get, but when was the last time they threw a hissy fit about it, having a go at all the meanies and saying they cant do it any more? Oh yes, that would be never. They don't have that luxury because they had to work so fucking hard to get to that position in the first place, so any show of weakness isn't really allowed.

There's your 'cis' privilege Lily. Welcome to the world of being a woman, you had better start sucking it up pretty quick.

PersianCatLady · 11/12/2017 13:37

I thought he lived with his parents? Get a loan like the rest of the student population
My DS and all of his uni mates are eagerly awaiting the SFE payment on 29 December having wasted a good proportion of their last SFE payment.

I suspect Lily is no different.

If Lily wants to leave home then Lily can wait until after Christmas when Lily will have a lot more money.

If Lily wants to leave home then Lily should notify SFE of Lily's change of circumstances as Lily will be entitled to a larger loan payment if Lily does not live at home.

Otherwise Lily like most students has the ability to use a student bank account and ask for a generous interest free overdraft.

Failing that, Lily can ask Lily's university for information on the university's hardship scheme.

Considering Lily has a lot of rich friends, I would have thought that one of those would like to help??

Thehairthebod · 11/12/2017 13:43

And Labour really aren't doing their credibility any favours by putting someone so obviously thick and inarticulate as a flag bearer.

Yes, we want more young people from 'normal' backgrounds representing us. Yes Parliament is still overrun by people who were trained from a young age to be confident speakers, who were arrogantly leaning on lecterns as they addressed hundreds of people at a Model UN at the age of 15, who have been brought up to talk down to the plebs.

But fuck, at least those people can pretend to make out like they know what they are talking about.

I don't want to be represented by someone who can barely string a sentence together and whose main vocab seems to consist of 'ummmm', 'like' and 'people like me'.

Lancelottie · 11/12/2017 13:43

Yep. Lily should look at this: www.uca.ac.uk/life-at-uca/fees/degree-financial-support/

rather than trying to cadge funds from random strangers.

SuburbanRhonda · 11/12/2017 13:51

I thought student finance payments were scheduled to coincide with the start of each term? DS’s next instalment is due in January 2018.

PersianCatLady · 11/12/2017 13:53

I thought student finance payments were scheduled to coincide with the start of each term? DS’s next instalment is due in January 2018
I checked this last night and my son's is scheduled for 29 December.

I found it odd too but have you looked at your son's latest schedule on the website??

SuburbanRhonda · 11/12/2017 14:10

No, tbh I haven’t looked. But I will, and if he’s getting the next instalment before the start of next term I’ll keep quiet about it Smile

PersianCatLady · 11/12/2017 14:12

if he’s getting the next instalment before the start of next term I’ll keep quiet about it
Doesn't it go into his bank account though??

nauticant · 11/12/2017 14:21

The likes of Jess Philips, Stella Creasey and Mhairi Black may sometimes draw attention to the abuse the get, but when was the last time they threw a hissy fit about it, having a go at all the meanies and saying they cant do it any more? Oh yes, that would be never. They don't have that luxury because they had to work so fucking hard to get to that position in the first place, so any show of weakness isn't really allowed.

As things currently stand, Lily could just have a meltdown every time it gets too much until they're coaxed back into public life by adoration. Each post-meltdown return would confirm the brave narrative and that they are exactly the right person to be an MP. Women MPs would not be permitted this luxury. I don't think men MPs would either to be honest.

DonkeySkin · 11/12/2017 14:43

As things currently stand, Lily could just have a meltdown every time it gets too much until they're coaxed back into public life by adoration. Each post-meltdown return would confirm the brave narrative and that they are exactly the right person to be an MP. Women MPs would not be permitted this luxury. I don't think men MPs would either to be honest.

This is so true.

Men who identify as trans are not only not treated like women, they are allowed to get away with behaviour that non-trans men could only dream of. Trans-identifying men are treated as a super-special, super-vulnerable category of males who deserve endless indulgence, and unfortunately I suspect that Liam/Lily's public display of incompetence and fragility only strengthens his position - as well as furthering the narrative that women who question any of this are just heartless bitches, of course.

Fekko · 11/12/2017 14:58

What subject is he studying anyway?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 11/12/2017 15:00

Fashion

Fekko · 11/12/2017 15:02

Doesn't look like any of the fashion/design students I've ever met.

I assume there will be a political/gender slant to the designs? Extra groin room in the hotpants? Tighter across the boobage area? Lower waists on the empire line frocks?

SuburbanRhonda · 11/12/2017 15:27

Yes, it does, but he’s really good with money and rarely checks his balance.

Sorry for derailing, everyone Blush

SuburbanRhonda · 11/12/2017 15:30

If Lily is studying fashion, there will be a shitload of assignments and coursework to do from day one. How on earth can Lily juggle that with three jobs and a serious Twitter habit?

MrGHardy · 11/12/2017 15:50

By crying the teacher is transphobic tonget an A probably.

Fekko · 11/12/2017 16:31

I think we've all been in class with someone like that.

busyboysmum · 11/12/2017 17:17

Lily can apparently get pregnant....

Lily Madigan - C4 news tonight
Lancelottie · 11/12/2017 17:20

OK, I'm out. That is a teenage boy doing it for a dare.

PricklyBall · 11/12/2017 17:22

Can get pregnant? Fuck me the world has gone completely mad. Stop it, I want to get off.

Datun · 11/12/2017 17:23

busyboysmum

What!!!! That has to be a typo.

Can you link to the conversation, by any chance?

cafeaulaitpourvous · 11/12/2017 17:26

Whooooo hahahahahahahahahaaahhhaaaaaa!

That just takes the fucking biscuit!

He says he can get pregnant!!!!!

BossyBitch · 11/12/2017 17:26

Doesn't look like any of the fashion/design students I've ever met.

In all fairness, and while I share the general outrage about Lily: so bloody what?

Aren't we arguing on these very threads that an affinity for frilly pink shit doesn't make someone a woman? I.e. that non-conforming looks and behaviour are okay?

FWIW, I was an engineering undergrad who might have actually 'passed' as a fashion student, but I certainly looked nothing like the nerd stereotypes that made up large chunks of my class. I was still the best programmer in my year and I still ended up being the one with the stellar career in the field, whereas some of my more typical former fellow undergrads are still busy building websites for the local plumber. And yet, to this day, even people within my firm who meet me for the first time are surprised that I'm in the tech division and not, as they generally assume, in management consulting.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for calling TRAs out on their shit - but can we do it for the right reasons?

BatShite · 11/12/2017 17:33

Yes, thankfully x

Grin

Science has really came on in the past week eh?! Amazing.

Fekko · 11/12/2017 17:34

Just musing (I went to art achool).

Swipe left for the next trending thread