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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer

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jMillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 05:17

Lily is 19. Lily was instrumental in the hate campaign against Anne Ruzylo which resulted in her standing down.

You have to be a woman to be women’s officer but ‘The Labour councillor said that “lived experience as a woman” should be considered an advantage — but not a prerequisite — for the role of women’s officer.’

Lily could also have gone for the LGBT officer role but they didn’t want that. No, they wanted to show women that they can shit all over them and we will applaud them for doing it.

I’m absolutely furious about this ( as you can probably tell)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8?shareToken=472df23aa6315582a4f6558d7a1be5ba

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RedToothBrush · 20/11/2017 19:20

Maturity is measured by how you respond to criticism or the finding of controversy in your past if you are in politics.

He's just failed the maturity test, with his response on FB and made people who are concerned about it, respect him even less.

Of course this is what he thrives on. The attention and the poor me victim complex.

Seen it time and again. Its the thing I dislike most about aggressive trans-activism. The me, me, me thing.

OlennasWimple · 20/11/2017 19:22

I think Lily is proving that not all kids are technically literate

Did you see her Facebook comments on her own photo shoot pictures here? Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 20/11/2017 19:23

Well, this is a new low isn't it?

Nothing says quite like "we don't give a shit about women being bullied out of the Labour Party" quite like giving a woman's job to the person who orchestrated the bullying. Bloody hell.

Datun · 20/11/2017 19:25

OlennasWimple

I’ve clicked that link twice and I can’t see what you’re referring to. Just a bunch of photos of kids.

RedToothBrush · 20/11/2017 19:26

twitter.com/madigan_lily

Is this real or fake?

RedToothBrush · 20/11/2017 19:28

I think Lily is proving that not all kids are technically literate

Particularly so, if the above twitter account is indeed real.

Sentimentallentil · 20/11/2017 19:32

I’m not convinced it is his account, it looks like the kind of hilarious thing me and my friends would do to each other when we’d drank too much Diet Pepsi in the school library. We’d make fake accounts for each other all the time, mostly revolving around how obsessed our friend Daniel was with parsnips. I can’t really remember why just that it was side splittingly funny at the time.
This account doesn’t look real there’s not enough tweets or followers.

Sentimentallentil · 20/11/2017 19:34

I mean the acoustic where he’s imititating blow jobs not the lily one btw

Sentimentallentil · 20/11/2017 19:35

Sorry my phones autocorrect is very keen today, account not acoustic obvs.

OlennasWimple · 20/11/2017 19:36

Datun - sorry, I keep losing posts and links for some reason today Hmm

If you search "Heightened Reality" Facebook "Lily Madigan" you can see an album of photos taken by what seems to be a modelling / promotional agency. Lily has commented on the album of photos of her "She's hot"

SophoclesTheFox · 20/11/2017 19:42

I could see the FB page you linked, Olenna.

I think we might be better not to focus on the twitter account - might be real, might not - but on the actual undeniable fact that this odious little bully is occupying a place meant for a woman, when less than a year ago Lily was a teenager named Liam, and therefore is manifestly unqualified on every single imaginable measure to be in post. No experience, no GRC, and with previous form for shunting women out. Not acceptable for those reasons.

OlennasWimple · 20/11/2017 19:43

Lily is also the UCA Women's Officer, the LGBTQ+ Officer and Campus Executive Officer

A bit George Osborne, all those different jobs

Bejazzled · 20/11/2017 19:44

It's really a whole new level of ridiculousness.
Bye Labour.

Sentimentallentil · 20/11/2017 19:45

I also feel uncomfortable posting links to his Facebook etc and jibes about his appearance, I think there’s enough to be annoyed about without resorting to things like that.

MillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 19:47

I can well believe one of Lily's mates set that page up as a laugh. But more than anything, it proves Labour's pathetic desperation to fall over themselves to appease the translobby. Why didn't they check this out? It wasn't very hard to find. And why did no one think about whether he is legally a woman? It's just so sloppy. They must have known there would be a massive media outcry if he were appointed to women's officer. A wee bit of due diligence wouldn't have gone amiss.

Those publicity shots were taken in October. So again, I wonder who is behind Lily's rapid rise to prominence.

Sentimentallentil · 20/11/2017 19:47

Are all the signatures of that letter men from the student union. Couldn’t bloody make it up! Olennas?

GuardianLions · 20/11/2017 19:49

A letter in support of Madigan signed by Tom, Riley, Phil and Everybody.... I presume that the 'everybody' the dudes are signing on behalf of includes women? Oleannas

GuardianLions · 20/11/2017 19:50

x posted

Datun · 20/11/2017 19:52

I’m convinced that is his real account. Asking to go round his mates for a curry? Talking about fat people?

Who would have that depth of imagination?

Photographs are undeniably genuine. Blowjob shots?

Who wants an adolescent who does blowjob shots to represent women. Real women with issues over reproduction rights, menstruation products taxes, abortion rights, etc.

It’s utter insanity. Nonsense.

colouringinagain · 20/11/2017 19:57

FURIOUS Angry

MillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 19:57

When Lily was determined to oust Anne Ruzylo from her job, he seemed to have a really good handle on how Twitter works. Funny that Hmm

Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer
WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/11/2017 19:57

Have just emailed both Labour and Momentum to cancel my membership and cancelled direct debits. I have stated that their organisations' continued support of proposals to amend the GRA as the reason. The appointment of Lily Manigan and the association with Owen Jones as being the final straw in making my decision.

hackmum · 20/11/2017 20:00

I think it's his real account too. If you were going to create an account to bully someone, you'd do do it in a way that made them look weak and feeble. You wouldn't have them boasting about being a rapist and apprentice of Jimmy Savile.

Plus, the photo, of course.

Garlicansapphire · 20/11/2017 20:01

I feel very angry that women are again - as they have been throughout history - being shouted down and sidelined and told they have no claim to their own identity and equality in society.

My message to Lily and others like her:

I do not believe I am transphobic and I support LBGTQ rights. To have your own freedom and identity and live how you choose. Absolutely.

But not at the expense of my experience, my identity and my voice. You do not speak for me and for my lifelong experience of being treated unequally and disempowered by men. I will not allow you to reinforce this experience by taking the place of women like me, by shouting down women like me, or by insulting my right to disagree with you. Your freedom to be who you want to be does not trump mine or that of other women like me.

My biology is not my weakness - it is my strength. What do you understand of my, and other women's experience of being born and raised a woman in this society? My experience of breasts and adolescence and periods, and childbirth and menopause. Of being told that I cant have certain toys because they were boys toys or being told to be ladylike and feminine? By being asked sexist and illegal questions at interview that wouldn't be asked of men. Your experience is different - not worse or less worthy, but it is different. Just because you feel disempowered and disenfranchised it doesn't mean you are more woman than me. You are simply different to me and to biological men. You walk your own path and I walk mine - and I wish you the best of luck with it. Make your own experience and adventure, be truly your own self. You cannot appropriate mine.

And if you try to silence me and other women like me - by bullying and calling out and labelling 'transphobe' or other vile labels, you will be denying women their freedom of speech and reinforcing centuries of misogyny. You are not me. You walk a separate path. Make it your own.

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How do you think men would react if it was the other way round? Please....

But my one thought pause for thought reading Lily's FB profile how young and potentially vulnerable this person is.

Gileswithachainsaw · 20/11/2017 20:01

Course it's real or you'd have had it shut down immediately surely Hmm

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