Girls beating up boys

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Has any girl on here ever beat up a boy?

Yonic and Seven, if someone had come on the thread and said something homophobic, say, that was unrelated to the OP, would it not be okay to challenge it? AsAMan said something that upset Frau. She drew attention to the fact that it was offensive to her that her sexual preferences were being misrepresented. Don't you think she has a right to point that out?

When I was 12 I thumped a boy because he hurt me. He gave me a black eye. That learnt me.

Xposts Frau

She wasn't saying that at all

She was saying you couldn't afford it mate which is a standard response to creepy men, with the heels balls bit because he clearly has some kind of thing about girls hitting boys that might well involve his right hand .

She didn't mean it at all like you've taken it.

Ok so I get that "you can't afford it mate" is generally a bit problematical but are period really saying that women and girls aren't allowed to say that to creepy men any more?

People always say we should laugh this stuff off and that's the only comment I can think of that is "standard" and leaves the women and girls laughing at the man.

Must we really watch our language when talking to creepy men so as not to offend people who aren't even there?

With all due respect Frau, you've gotten the wrong end of the stick. Asaman was not only joking but it was a pithy response to the OP who was being goady. Her joking about taking money didn't in any way shape or form imply that you or anyone else did. In fact it would have been chronologically impossible for her to do that because you weren't on the thread at the time and she in all likelihood didn't know of your existence.

Of course your thoughts are welcome here. And yes there is a lot of navel gazing going on in FWR at the mo. Perhaps this is a perfect example of people taking offence where absolutely none is intended. Because I'm pretty sure that if you were to start a thread in FWR about your sexual proclivities noone would bat an eyelid because it sounds like it's all based on enthusiastic mutual consent which is like big warm happy blanket to us feminists.

She didn't mean it at all like you've taken it.

Yeah, she was only joking, luv.

Sheesh, can't you women ever take a joke?

Sanity said it so much better than me.

My sexual preferences were misrepresented that I must get paid for them. That's not true. Why can't I say that? Why is that so wrong for me to say in here that I get sarcy comments and shot down in flames?

OK laugh it off - say "you can't afford me mate" if that's what you want to say and you think that's funny (I personally don't) but why why why tag on the bit about BDSSM if you don't mean to get a dig in at those who do practice safe and not paid for BDSSM? You wouldn't do that if it was gay or lesbian sex, why do it for BDSSM?

But you weren't even in the thread!

And she was saying you can't afford it mate which is a standard response to men who accost women.

I don't understand this at all.

Right, so because I wasn't on the thread at the beginning, I am not allowed to post what I think?

That's really going to work on MN it'll last a long time.

And the standard response is fucking shite and rude and if it has to diss BDSSM then it's wrong to me - I don't get paid, I never have.

You wouldn't diss (I hope) lesbian or gay sexual preferences, and anyone who did would (I hope) get shot down in flames on here - so why is BDSSM different?

Okay, no one has come on this thread and said they are disabled, Black, or homosexual.

So, it's okay for me to say disablist, racist and homophobic things then? Because "they weren't even there"!

Anyway to answer the OP's question, I once punched a man in the eye because he was the most vocal member of a 50 odd crowd of men who were sexually harrassing me at the time. They were part of a stag do and I can only hope the creepy guy had a nice shiner at the wedding.

DS has been hit by a girl at school but the vast majority of times he is hit by boys. HTH OP.

Of course you can post what you think but you said her post was aimed at you and it wasn't as you weren't on the thread when she wrote it! And even if you were, she wouldn't have known what your sexual preference was.

I understand that you are upset and I'm sorry for that.

I'm also surprised that you haven't heard " you can't afford it " as a put down to creepy men before.

And she it's a problematic comment but it's one of the main standard come backs, if not the main standard come back, to creepy men. And we don't have a whole lot of come backs at all so to take that one away...

So if you were in the street and you saw a man approach a couple of 13yo and one of them said "you couldn't afford it mate" and walk off laughing, you would consider them to be the offensive ones?

And surely anyone who repeat posts on a women's website wanting stories of girls hitting boys and never give any reason is pretty damn likely to be in the creepy man category, hence the reaction to him.

I didn't say it was aimed at me specifically. I have clarified that already.

I never said I haven't heard "you can't afford it" as a put down to creepy men. I said I don't like it as a put down.

I don't think AsAMan was suggesting that all women into BDSM get paid for it

Sounded to me more like a comment on this guy probably coming here to find something to wank to, I read it as a judgement on him trying to get his kicks for free of a group of women who aren't here looking for ways to titillate men. Not a judgement on those women who do enjoy BDSM.

It was a way of putting him down for not going to someone who'd actually be a willing participant, while also suggesting that only someone who gets paid for it would be willing to do it for him.

Obviously I could be reading too much into this, but that's how I've always meant tit when I've used the "I doubt you have that kind of money" response.

And yeah, he picked the wrong site, and yes, indeed, that is wrong - but not all men who like to be hit by women are creepy. Certainly, the ones I was with last night weren't.

Absolutely, but this guy, definitely creepy.

No one in their right mind would choose a feminist board to try and find women to satisy their sexual urges.

No one who isn't a creep would try to phrase their request as if it isn't sexual to get women to share stories without consenting to them being used as wank fodder.

I am actually a little discombobulated at the idea that standard come backs that women and girls have for men who approach them uninvited and make sexism comments / proposition them need to be stopped.

We don't have many responses for men who do this and in a safer environment this is one that is used by many girls and make them laugh, they take back a tiny bit of power.

What would you replace it with, what would you rather they said?

Girls beating up boys, not men beating up women.
As a Forces child I was regularly dropped into schools as and when my father was posted, Many of those schools had groups of children who didn't like incomers, especially if they were fairly bright and had a lot more experience of the world than many of them. This was in the 60s and early 70s.
I fought a lot of children, mostly boys. Rarely the same individual twice.

Garbled there sorry autocorrect

Hope it makes sense more or less

Frau, I read this:

"Why does everyone on this site assume that because I am a Domme then I must be getting paid to do it"

As thinking Asa's was aimed at you specifically, because you used "I am"

It wasn't intended to make fun of your personal sexual preferences and I'm sorry you took it that way.

So a response that further reinforces the notion that women are the gate keepers of sex and that men have to pay for it - that's the right response?

Sod that. What's wrong with fuck off?

So a response that further reinforces the notion that women are the gate keepers of sex and that men have to pay for it - that's the right response?

Sod that. What's wrong with fuck off?

Well said!

Frau as a man was responding to this one man who stated this thread who seems to be looking for stories from women about girls hitting boys so he can have a good wank.

Her response was a standard one that women and girls make when confronted with men like this to take the piss out of them and tell them to fuck off. And she aligned it with what he seems to want to get off on, ie women hitting men but put it in a way she thought he would recoil at rather than find sexual ie crushing his balls.

She was not commenting on normal people who like bdsm.

Frau, it's not that you're not allowed to take offence because you weren't on the thread, it's that Asaman wasn't talking to you personally.

Was she talking generally, implying that ALL BDDSM peeps take money? I can't say because it seemed to be a throwaway joke made by someone whose thought processes I'm not privy to.

I suspect that the reference to money "you can't afford me" was made because in the world of some men like OP women are seen as the gatekeepers to sex and money as a way to open that gate. I agree that that idea is horribly offensive but it is equally offensive to all forms of sex, not just BDDSM and I suspect Asaman was making fun of that worldview, not endorsing it.

You obviously believe that it is offensive to accuse someone of taking money for sex. Does that mean that you think it is wrong to take money for sex? Because if so that is quite offensive to sex workers and I would be wary of saying that.