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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Girls beating up boys

265 replies

Plymouthsupporter · 31/10/2014 23:11

Has any girl on here ever beat up a boy?

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FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 08:56

And Yonic, what I wrote was a general comment (that's why I said "everyone on this site") based on my experience of the last few days since coming "out" as a dominant woman.

Apologies if that was unclear.

SevenZarkSeven · 01/11/2014 08:57

Nothing is wrong with fuck off but girls have been saying this to men forever.

You want them to stop, OK. How do you suggest we tackle this problem.

Best in mind that fuck off is not in the same vein really so may illicit a more violent reaction to the man it's said to.

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 08:57

I don't give a shit if anyone else takes money every single time they fuck.

Honestly, I don't give a damn.

But I do object to the notion that all those women involved in BDSSM get paid for it.

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 08:58

Frau That's a fair point, hadn't really thought about it from that viewpoint.

Though I guess the counter view, IMO, is that when I use the "I doubt you have that kind of money" response it's my way of saying I get to control what sexual activity I consent to, and no money in the world would make me consent to someone who thinks they can trick women into doing something sexual for them.

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:00

"But I do object to the notion that all those women involved in BDSSM get paid for it."

I genuinely don't think AsAMan was suggesting that.

SevenZarkSeven · 01/11/2014 09:01

The you can't afford it response is the only standard one I can think of that gives any power back to the girls.

It is saying, basically, no I am better than you. I wouldn't do you no matter how much money you had.

I don't see how it is a positive move to try and get it stamped out as a response.

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:03

I think it reinforces the notion that women are the gatekeepers of sex and women get paid for it in one way or another.

I have never used it.

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:06

And I read it as saying "if you had enough money I would"

Different perceptions.

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:06

Actually the more I think about it, I'm actually not sure why women being gatekeepers of sex is a negative thing.

I'm more used to hear women being spoken about as if they owe men sex, that it's a man's right, so saying that actually no, women get to decide - that sounds good to me.

What am I missing?

SevenZarkSeven · 01/11/2014 09:07

You also have no idea what asaman's asexual preferences are, or indeed anyone else in here unless they have told you.

All you know on this thread is that the op is highly likely to be looking for stories of girls hitting boys so he can knock one out.

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:08

"And I read it as saying "if you had enough money I would""

Ah ok, that makes more sense.

I guess I'd always thought of it as a variation on "when hell freezes over", but can see why it could be interpreted differently.

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:08

I don't give a shit what anyone's preferences are.

He could be - but that doesn't make the knocking one out wrong, it makes where he chose to put it wrong, but it doesn't make the preference wrong.

SevenZarkSeven · 01/11/2014 09:09

Frau omg you think that when girls say " you can't afford it " to creepy men who accost them, they are not saying no, but are attempting to open negotiations?

Sorry but wtaf?

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:10

This is true, not sure anyone has actually judged him for his sexual preferences, well aside from the fact he obviously gets off on trying to trick women in to doing stuff for him.

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:11

I'm saying that's how it could be perceived - it reinforces the notion that women get paid for sex in one way or another.

It's not something I would ever say. I don't think it's a good put down. I think it reinforces the notion that if men "pay" enough then sex is a right.

NotDavidTennant · 01/11/2014 09:11

FrauHelga: I get that you feel attacked, but you seem to have assumed the worst possible interpretation of AsAMan's post. Wouldn't the good faith thing be to ask for clarification to see if AsAMan really meant what you think she meant, or if actually she meant the comment differently to the way you're interpreting it?

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:13

Wouldn't the good faith thing for others not to jump all over me and tell me I shouldn't be posting here?

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:14

Frau If AsAMan comes back and agrees that she meant it in a "not enough money in the world" type comment, will that reassure you that it wasn't a judgement on your preferences?

BellaSolanum · 01/11/2014 09:15

"and tell me I shouldn't be posting here"

I've missed that, who told you that??

SevenZarkSeven · 01/11/2014 09:16

No

No one perceives that girls saying "you can't afford it" and then walking off laughing to creepy men who accosts then on the street, are opening negotiations for paid sex.

Anyone who thinks that had something very wrong with them. Are you serious here. Why are you saying such disturbing things, I don't understand.

Girls have enough trouble getting people to listen about stuff without this sort of thing being put about. This was the whole problem in Rotherham want it.

YonicScrewdriver · 01/11/2014 09:17

Frau, honestly, no one has told you that you shouldn't be posting here.

I think that's an interesting point about the "you couldn't afford me" thing - I've always read it as a variant of "not for all the tea in china" ie "I don't want to do that and there's no incentive in the world big enough to get me to do it"

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:18

Absolutely - but that then leads to a discussion on perceptions on this board, and how newbies (like me) are treated.

I am as feminist as I can be - I never took my husband's name when I was married, I never wore a ring, my kids have his name because it's a nicer name than my surname, but they all have middle names that reflect my identity (not double barrelled because it wouldn't have worked) and I'm a dominant woman - I don't get paid for it, and yes, I hit men sometimes. For fun and with their total consent. I don't engage in risky practices like putting on a pair of heels and stepping on their balls, and if someone posts that I'm going to call it, because that's the realms of porn movies and not safe.

YonicScrewdriver · 01/11/2014 09:18

How about "not even if you gave me a unicorn shitting rainbows"?

SanityClause · 01/11/2014 09:18

Quite. Where is AsAMan? Why are so many posters defending him/her? Why has s/he not come on to expand or apologise? Why do lots of posters seem to know exactly what s/he meant, when s/he hasn't posted since that first time?

FrauHelga · 01/11/2014 09:20

So why not say "not for all the tea in china" then? Why say "you can't afford me coz it's BDSSM"?

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