Really proud of my 17 year old daughter

[NicholasTeakozy]

She posted a staus on Facebook which read:-

Seen a few status' tonight that have kind of annoyed me. I don't consider myself a feminist, but with issues like this I am. Why are women's bodies over-sexualised all the time? Why can men walk around with their tops off showing off their bodies but it isn't socially acceptable for a woman to do so? Why are women deemed "disgusting" or "sluts" if they do exactly what a man does? Why is there such a taboo on our bodies but men can prance about however the fuck they wish? Nah, fuck that. Ladies, do what you like with your body (within reason). Fuck all you patriarchal cunts.

Cue two of her male friends who argued that women who dress in skimpy clothing are more likely to be harassed and sexually assaulted to which she replied it's the rapists' fault, not the women. Over the course of an hour she tore all their arguments apart and made them look stupid. She really brought a smile to my face and made me swell with pride to see such passion and anger in one so young.

you done well there Nicholas

She's been brought up right - well done you !

I wouldn't be happy with my daughter swearing like that. I see it on here a lot, and I don't think it adds anything to somebody's argument. She makes valid points - I just think the swearing detracts.

Because, as we all know, swearing is so unladylike

Aw that's good OP, fb is a hive vitriol these days nice to see someone standing up for whats right.
I have made a few angry statuses in the past about graphic images etc, I got no replies *sobs.

Good on your dd, NT, and good on you .

(Yup, namechange. the swearing is definitely the main point, here . Personally, I've always taught mine to save the swearing for when they really need it. Not, you know, trivial stuff. I've never met a 17 year old who swears like that. It will really have alienated the peer group that she was addressing.)

Very good slug, very good. I don't like it, but it's a personal thing, I guess. Doing it in public, or a public forum, is not good manners in my view. It doesn't reflect well on the swearer.

As hairtearing says though, faceybebo is a hive of vitriol these days. It seems to be the done thing to f and blind all over it. I wouldn't let my kids do it.

"Fuck all you patriarchal cunts"

Vile coming from either sex I'm afraid. Principles are all well and good but if you can't deliver them in an articulate way then you're basicly screwed.

I do hope to God that any prospective employers/unis/colleges don't research her too deeply.

If I was her prospective employer, that would definitely bump her up my list of people to employ

Who said its ok for men walking around showing their bodies? Personally I think it's uncalled for unless you are at the beach. Shame she felt the need to swear.

I like the swearing. I think it adds flavour.

She sounds great. She sounds like she's got a lovely supportive family too.

I think the swearing is pretty inconsequential.

Is "Fuck all you patriarchal cunts" what you hear over the dinner table in the Teakozy home?

Particular frown about "cunt" used as an insult. Whether you're a feminist or not, there's something for you here.

Can't say those words would make me swell with pride, she sounds very antagonistic and agressive. Sorry.

Rather undermined herself with the swearing, I don't think it's at all inconsequential. It isn't about being 'ladylike' it's about being articulate.

I don't think the swearing is a huge deal, compared to most of fb tbh, fb is a place for adults after all.

at juxtaposition of PP objecting to use of sexual swearwords but then going on to use the phrase 'you're basicly (sic) screwed'

at juxtaposition of PP objecting to use of sexual swearwords but then going on to use the phrase 'you're basicly (sic) screwed'

I hang my head in shame

see, it's just language

Go on, NT's DD!
I would quite like 'fuck all you patriarchal cunts' on a t-shirt.

Indeed

'fuck all you patriarchal cunts' made me do an actual lolz.

Thanks for the replies, even the slightly snarky ones. She doesn't usually swear, so for her to have done so means she was really annoyed. What I'm proud of was that she not only stood up for what she believes in, but successfully argued her case against two people who held the opposing view.

She's an intelligent, articulate young woman who will hopefully have a role to play in the future of feminism. If I can persuade her to.

Indeed, slug. I've just skimmed through read John Stuart Mill's On Liberty and the chapter on free discussion has a paragraph on this. To paraphrase, it's something like you generally find the tone objectionable if it's voicing an opinion you don't like but find it quite acceptable if it's arguing for you.

I think I may have missed the point re men being able to go topless but not women. Women have extra private parts on their chests and men don't. Isn't that why it's ok for men to be topless - like in a swimming pool, men wear trunks but women wear costume/bikini so that fanjo and boobs covered? Please enlighten me!!