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Tulisa - wonderful role model

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Lottapianos · 24/03/2012 17:48

Tulisa is feminism's new hero

I think she's been incredibly brave this week. I can only imagine how mortifying and sickening it must be to think that someone you trusted has put intimate footage of you into the public domain. Full credit to her for refusing to be shamed by this. It's probably too much to hope that he's the one feeling ashamed, but he flipping well should be Angry

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MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 25/03/2012 22:42

You can like or dislike who you want, you just sound like you are taking perverse pleasure in her misfortune. Personally I find that sad.

AmberLeaf · 25/03/2012 22:45

It doesnt at all, im not a fan of hers either.

As I said before, you just appear to be taking pleasure in her humiliation.

KarmaK · 25/03/2012 22:48

You can like or dislike who you want, you just sound like you are taking perverse pleasure in her misfortune. Personally I find that sad.

It's fair enough to put Tulisa forward as a "role model" but I think it's important to accept that many, many of people will disagree with you. In my view the woman is a joke. While I certainly do not take "perverse pleasure" in her silly decision to let herself be filmed sucking cock, I do have to admit that I find it slightly amusing. There are so many women who have gone through really difficult experiences and come out triumphant - those are my role models. Tulisa in comparison is a bit of a joke to me. Sorry if that offends anybody but that is how it is.

AmberLeaf · 25/03/2012 22:59

let herself be filmed sucking cock, I do have to admit that I find it slightly amusing

Yes it shows. so you are taking pleasure in her misfortune, how sisterly of you.

AmberLeaf · 25/03/2012 23:02

Its the language you have used KarmaK sucking cock being slapped in the face by a purple willy^ its derogatory and nasty, which was clearly your intention.

KarmaK · 25/03/2012 23:03

Yes it shows. so you are taking pleasure in her misfortune, how sisterly of you.

She's absolutely not my sister and I have made it extremely clear that I don't think much of her. You can't expect everyone to agree with your views.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 25/03/2012 23:09

Listen Im the first to say we shouldnt have to like or agree with each other just because we are women but come on, KarmaK the words you are using are so so nasty.

Is that the way you decribe the sexual acts you engage in with partners?

KarmaK · 25/03/2012 23:11

This is actually taken from a comment left by someone on a Tulisa article in the Observer. I thoroughly agree with it:

^So, definition of 'my hero' is:

  1. you blowjob an idiot and get taped doing it
  2. idiot leaks the tape
  3. you deny through your pr that it is you
  4. you realise that is not going to work
  5. you do a 2nd video 'apologising that you have nothing to apologise for'^
KarmaK · 25/03/2012 23:13

Is that the way you describe the sexual acts you engage in with partners?

to be fair I'm not allowing somebody to video-tape me bashing myself repeatedly in the face with a purple willy. If I was doing so it would be a stretch to describe such a spectacle as an 'intimate moment'

Nyac · 25/03/2012 23:22

Why haven't you got anything to say about the guy who bashed her in the face with his purple willy, filmed it and probably released the film Karma?

Like Tulisa said, it was an intimate moment which she wasn't expecting to share with anybody except her boyfriend - he's violated her privacy and her sexuality and her trust. Thats' pretty bad.

KarmaK · 25/03/2012 23:40

Why haven't you got anything to say about the guy who bashed her in the face with his purple willy, filmed it and probably released the film Karma?

Well the man she's accusing of doing this is denying that it's him in the video. Since all you see in the vid is a purple willy and not the body attached to it it is hard to say. If it was one of her ex boyfriends who purposely put this video out there to harm her than that is despicable. It would be quite interesting to hear her ex's side of the story. So far he seems to be simply saying that it's not him in the video.

MrsClown · 26/03/2012 11:16

IMO she had no choice but to come out about this tape. What would be really good is if she impressed to young women how stupid she feels for allowing her boyfriend to film her and that her parents have now probably seen her have sex.

noddyholder · 26/03/2012 14:13

Lots of people film these sort of things I think everyone is over reacting.

KarmaK · 26/03/2012 22:33

Her ex says that it was Tulisa's idea to film the sex act and that it was filmed on Tulisa's phone. He also says it was not him who released the footage. This should be easy enough to either prove or disprove.

Nyac · 26/03/2012 22:57

But you must have actual commentary about him. You were quick to condemn Tulisa. Why not him Karma?

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:33

Nyac, the ex is not the one who's been mouthing off so there's not a lot to say about him as we don't know a lot. Yet.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 00:35

Jesus Karma you really hate her dont you? Now she is "mouthing off" because she defended herslf? Hey she probably deserves it right?

Tortington · 27/03/2012 00:37

we know he posted a video of her without her permission

ergo he's a prick

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:45

we know he posted a video of her without her permission

No we don't. Finally the papers are carrying his side of the story. He says the video was filmed on Tulisa's own phone at her request. And he's denying that he's the only who posted it online.

The only two people who know the truth about what happened are Tulisa and her ex boyfriend. None of the rest of us know a thing so it's quite funny that we're bothering to actually argue about the activities of two people we don't know. Either Tulisa or her ex or even both of them could be talking out of their arses.

We will probably never know the truth. At the end of the day, it's not even any of our business is it?

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:47

Jesus Karma you really hate her dont you?

What on earth??

I can't hate somebody I've never even met or spoken to. I just don't buy her story. I also don't believe a fair bit of what various celebrities say. I don't believe some of the models and actresses who claim they eat burgers every day and never exercise. I take the crap they come out with a pinch of salt. It certainly doesn't mean I hate them. I don't even know any of them.

Tortington · 27/03/2012 00:53

oh he's denying it? quell surprise.

yes there were two people in the room and it hasn't really been to tulisa's benefit to show her giving a blowy.

Tulisa took an injunction out on him and you are suggesting she did this becuase he wasn't doing anything? waste of legal fees then? stupid thing to do - just pay lawyers for no particular reason dont you think?

we are all giving an opinion based on info we have - my opinion is that he's got most to gain and he's a prick

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 01:00

Things got complicated when Tulisa made a big fuss about how it wasn't her in the video, even going on to complain how "sad" it was that somebody would fake a tape of her. She also categorically claimed she'd never made a sex tape in her life. She has now admitted two things - firstly that it is her in the tape and secondly that she knew the tape was being made at the time.

That's why I've got a problem with everything that's said consequently. Her story's just not been consistent.

And I can't possibly say who leaked the video. The OBVIOUS thing would be to blame this less well-known, less well-off guy and assume (without even knowing anything at all about the guy) that he did this because, being less successful than Tulisa, he wanted to make some money or he wanted to sabotage her career out of jealous. But honestly how could I know what this guy's capable of? How do any of you know?? I know so little about him and he's said so little so far. Until this sex tape stuff I'd never even heard of him. I've got nothing to go on. Whereas with Tulisa I do have the fact she's ALREADY told several porkie pies, to go on... I hope that clarifies where I'm coming from.

AmberLeaf · 27/03/2012 08:18

Karma, the original denial is whats called damage limitation and TBH was probably instigated by her management, the explanation video by Tulisa was filmed in her hallway and submitted via youtube [so naff all to do with her management] that should tell you something.

You sound like you think women involved in sexua/privacyl violations such as this deserve the scorn heaped on the by people like you.

skrumle · 27/03/2012 08:38

did you not say further up this thread karmak that he denied it was him in the video but now he's admitting it was him?

so he's lied about it initially, exactly the same way she did, so how is he any more consistent than her? and i CBA to go search but i'm pretty sure her initial denial was that such a tape "didn't exist", rather than "never been made". and she made that statement after checking with this specific ex-boyfriend...

PurpleRomanesco · 27/03/2012 09:20

Surely the fact that she firstly denied it showed her humiliation and proves she isn't behind the leaking of this horrid video? Her gut reaction was "That's not me" But when it sadly became obvious that it was her as more people were watching that it was clearly her she chose to make a video saying,

"Yes it's me, Sorry I lied but it was supposed to be private moment that none of you should have seen. What I did wasn't wrong, What he did (leaking it) WAS."

I believe her. BTW, What does the colour of this mans penis have to do with the price of butter? Odd.