Thread 2 - BMI under 27 - Off Label/less to lose

[Beachforever]

New thread from:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5509897-bmi-under-27-off-labelless-to-lose

Checking in 🙂

Well done @beachforever,I was also thinking it was getting full!

Thanks @Beachforever !

I had an odd experiment this weekend. I'm one of the people who finds wegovy reduces the pull to alcohol, so if I have drank whilst on WLI, I've just had the one and drank it very slowly, and it's had no real effect (I assumed because it was so little, and with a meal)
Id had a bit of a rollercoaster of a few days awaiting some news which actually all turned out to be fine in the end, but I was a bit shaken up. Decided to have a few drinks and consciously drank a bit faster than the previous times. I got zero buzz from the alcohol at all. I could tell I had drunk enough to have an effect, because I felt stupid - as in, I felt my brain was slowed down and my concentration was affected - and I felt tired. There was no feeling of relaxation or any positive feeling at all. It was completely switched off, very weird.

I'm not going to lie I was a little disappointed! But it did make me think that for some people, it could be a wonder drug re alcohol cravings, eg those trying to stay abstinent. Weird for a weight loss drug though.

Omg - same thing happened to me. I actually tried to get a bit pissed on Sunday and although I felt physically a bit off I had no buzz at all. I also felt terrible the next day. Interestingly, I’ve been reading about naltrexone recently which basically does the same thing (it’s a drug that people take when they are drinking to inhibit the buzz drinking gives, as a way to ultimately drink less / stop). It’s a good thing for me / I’ve been relying on alcohol too much and I’ve barely drunk since starting MJ. Now I know I also physically can’t get that pissed buzz I won’t bother trying again 😂

Hah, same! I hadn't realised naltrexone was used for alcohol addiction but I have worked with people prescribed it for opioid use and it sounds very similar!
I wonder if I can retrain myself to accept that what I think is hunger isn't hunger, it's a need for dopamine!

Thanks for the new thread @Beachforever

I've found it fascinating how my attitude to alcohol has changed. I guess I knew it's 'all in my head' but the fact you can just turn off the cravings and also the buzzy effects of drinking with a drug somehow feels incredible!

I am technically at GW but thinking about going down another couple of KGs since I don't look like i did when I was this weight 6-7 years ago!

🙄Anyone else adjusting their GW or are you just accepting that things change, we're all older and (in my case) much less fit!

YES. I haven’t been this weight for 8 years, I looked amazing when I was this weight last time (and I did absolutely no exercise that time) my BMI is now 21.9 but I honestly feel like I need to lose at least another 7lb (which would still be well within healthy).

I don’t know if it’s getting down to this weight with no effort (I’ve been quite lazy…), if it’s my age (I’m only 38 and not peri as far as I’m aware though so not exactly properly middle aged) I really don’t know.

My measurements don’t seem to be shifting despite weight going down, my waist has been 28 inches for the last 7lb loss, so I’m worried I’m losing muscle now.

I’m starting strength training today, for health reasons of course…but also it’ll help me tone up where I look a bit soft.

@kljdslhs877 yeah I also wonder if I’ve lots ‘extra’ muscle whilst on MJ. I’m finding it difficult to exercise whilst on it - I feel really low on energy. Maybe I’ll get one more pen but do half doses (i‘m on 2.5) so I can eat a bit more and exercise more. Thing is, i’m jabbing in secret so I can’t keep it in the fridge 🤔

@maybethisway yes maybe try a smaller amount, I got up to 5mg (very briefly, like 2 weeks) and I had to go back down after nearly passing out in netball. As much as I want to be slim, I want to be strong and healthy more! I felt so feeble coming off the court.

ive just tried my “skinny” jeans on, you know the ones you keep for decades lol, they fit me, maybe it’s partially a mental thing. I jsut feel a lot “softer” not as firm if you know what I mean, but hopefully strength training will help with that. I’ve got ChatGPT to do a programme for me.

@maybethiswayand @kljdslhs877I’m very nearly at the weight I randomly picked for a goal. I’m feeling pretty good and am thinking about maintenance so don’t want to go too low.

I’m just really unsure how to proceed with the jabs. I love the other effects like reducing my joint pain and improving my skin.

Has anyone bought needles for a Wegovy pen in order to dose lower than 0.25? I had a little look last night but it was a bit overwhelming.

Is there a view on whether it’s better to dose lower every week or spread the 0.25 dose out longer? Thanks for any thoughts.

And you know what, I blame these bloody baggy jeans we have to wear these days! My skinny jeans are literally skinny and my legs look great I realise, but you can’t tell in the jeans we have to wear currently, let’s bring skinny back ha.

@OnTheTop I don’t know what the Wegovy pens are like, but I buy MJ pens and extra disposable needles and count the clicks. Is that possible?

The Wegovy pen comes with disposable needles that screw on the top. Is that the same as the MJ pen? I wonder if the needles are the same.

@OnTheTop yes that’s what MJ has, these disable needles are easily bought on pharmacies online. Box of 100 for about a fiver.

I am definitely MUCH softer!

I find it so difficult to be consistent with strength type workouts on my own at home. I love going for a run but bodyweight strength stuff I don't find very motivating and I have so little time with two small kids (2 and 5). I must make myself do it though. I know how important it is, especially as we get older.

I’m struggling to lose weight after a baby, despite a calorie deficit. I only have about 10kg to lose but it’s hard going. Does anyone have any experience of this?

How old is your little one @raisinglittlepeople12 ?

I have essentially used MJ to lose about 7kgs post kids (I had my youngest 2.5 years ago but I've never got back down to pre-kids weight). Although if I am honest, a lot of the reason I decided to take it was because I was struggling to cut out wine, which in turn made it very hard to lose weight. MJ has made me totally disinterested in wine, which has been incredible.

I know what you mean, it must be very challenging with children that young. I WFH and mine are in school so I’ve previously done Pilates after they’ve left for school and before I log on for work, so going to do that with strength training, but I’m not a morning person!

Yes, I’ve decided to go 1-2kg below my GW so that if I put a bit back on when I come off it’s not the end of the world and I don’t need to jump straight back on it.

I’m jabbing in secret too. I put it in a small non-see through Tupperware box at the bottoms of the fridge, right at the back buried under all the veg. No one delves that far into the fridge in my house, and definitely nowhere near the vegetables!!

Re exercise, I have found that I don’t have enough energy for high intensity cardio so I’ve dropped my spin classes but I’m still able to do my strength classes 3 times a week as long as I’ve had a bit of food beforehand and an electrolytes drink. Plus walking 10k steps a day.

Do you guys always put your pen back in the fridge? I'm a bit confused because it says to take it out to warm up before use but then once it's been at room temp, it shouldn't be put back in the fridge and needs to be used within 21 days?
Previously had been taking OH's pens out to warm up for 30mins then putting back in the fridge but since reading guidance we have been leaving at room temp in the cupboard after first use?

Hi all - I'm due to do my 8th injection on Friday. I've stayed on 0.25 for my second pen of Wegovy and I'm down to 67kg from 70.3kg starting weight. I've got to decide tomorrow if I'm going up to 0.5 for my third pen with Voy. I've been at 67kg since May 29th so not for ages but feel like If I'm still on that tomorrow I need to decide what to do with not maybe enough information to know if I've officially plateaued. I'm not getting as much appetite suppression but at the same time it's not gone back to normal or anything. Wish I had another week before I had to decide!

Is there anyone who has made the decision either way who can advise? If I wanted to get the 0.5 pen and then click count to do a dose of 0.375 for the first dose (especially as I'm away for one night at an event that weekend) - how do I know how many clicks?

I had very minimal side effects in the beginning and not really anything noticeable since the first week really - but for some reason this decision is stressing me out almost as much as starting to begin with!

If you search Google for “click counting wegovy” there are lots of websites and tables that show you how many clicks for whatever dose you want.

I’m on a MJ pen that is higher than the dose I want to stay at for the next 4 weeks so that I can choose on a weekly basis what dose I want. I just use a table I found on Google that tells me how many clicks.

So if I were you I’d just go up a pen and then you have as many weeks as you like to decide when to move your dose up.