Thread 2 - BMI under 27 - Off Label/less to lose

[Beachforever]

New thread from:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5509897-bmi-under-27-off-labelless-to-lose

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Does anyone know what Voy does if they don’t believe your photos?

My weight is over BMI 27 when normally dressed. If I weigh naked first thing in the morning before food it’s between 26 and 27, so I should be eligible.

I am tall with a narrow rib cage so I “carry my weight well”. I can see why they are suspicious of my photos. I still have a malleable layer of belly fat though! What will they do next to prove my weight?

@AmIReallyTheGrownup I don't know if they would offer another option if they've declined, but when I signed up with Voy I had a BMI of 25-26, depending on time of day, clothing etc, and I didn't have the option to do photos - I had to do a video call where as well as the consultation I had to video myself stepping on the scale and show myself in a full length mirror. I was wearing ordinary clothes though they asked me to lift up my jumper which felt a bit weird!

Weekly weigh in -

SW: 66.1kgs

Week 1: 63.7kgs (-2.4kgs)
Week 2: 62.3kgs (-1.4kgs)
Week 3: 60.7kgs (-1.6kgs)
Week 4: 60.0kgs (-0.7kgs)
Week 5: 58.8kgs (-1.2kgs)

I think a couple more kgs over the next few weeks then I won't order another pen. I haven't been exercising much so my plan is to throw myself into exercise for maintenance.

Looking for advice on micro micro dosing. I’m in the
enviable position of having easily got to my target weight in 6 weeks on 1mg. I just can’t eat on MJ! (Which has taken a lot of the joy out of life for me, quite frankly, but that’s another story). I’m now actually under my target weight, and feel I am starting to look too thin. And I’m terribly constipated!

However I’ve also had dramatic improvement in my laryngeal reflux and in my symptoms which are related to suspected endo, and I’ve reduced my alcohol intake to negligible amounts, so I want to stay on it longer term for those benefits if I can find the right balance.

I am wondering if 0.25mg is likely to offer some of the benefits but also increase my appetite? Otherwise I think I’ll have to come off it. Anyone finding success on a tiny dose?

@beachforever you were originally with Healand weren’t you? I gather from your last post that you have switched providers if you’re getting a pen? May I ask where from? I believe you and I both started with a normal BMI. Would like to do this if I can figure out how!

@midwalker yes, I switched providers as wanted a pen where I could flex the dose as I wished.

I could have got a pen from Healand for £265 but got one from an alternative provider for £210. Healand were happy for me to have a pen but not happy for me to micro dose from it. Presumably to save their margins.

I fibbed a bit with my new provider in terms of height and weight.

I’m considering maintaining on 0.5mg for all the other benefits but without losing weight. I think 0.25mg would mean using a 2.5mg pen for too long, personally.

@beachforever thank you! That’s helpful.

It’s my 10th jab tomorrow (Wev 0.25).

I'm now 62kg from 67.4kg when I started. I think I’ll finish this pen and then look at microdosing. I’m definitely not having as much suppression on 0.25 over the past couple of weeks. But I’m still losing weight, just needing to employ a bit of willpower than those first few effortless weeks.

@Beachforever - thanks for the new thread 😊

It's reassuring to read that I'm not the only one experiencing fatigue, low energy and feeling generally weak. I've always been strong and capable, but now, everyday things are such an effort and my legs often feel 'shaky'.

On the plus side, the weight is coming off slowly but surely. I've stayed on the starter dose of MJ, 2.5 (started off on Wegovy, but had to change as the side effects were awful) and I've consistently lost every week. I often have no desire to eat at all and have to set reminders to eat. I only want to lose a few more pounds (about 4-5) and then I will start micro-dosing. Hopefully, my energy levels will increase on a lower dose.

I've had unfortunate timing this weekend with a high level of supression on a day where I was doing a lot of physical activity (dance workshops) and it's meant I've had to force myself to eat because my legs were feeling like lead. I don't think I'll actually lose because my appetite was back on other days where I was far more sedentary, annoyingly! Hope I can get on a bit more of a sensible pattern soon.

Thanks for the new thread.

Im on week 9 of 2.5mg MJ. Have lost 1 stone and now back into healthy BMI bracket. Want to go a little lower.

Ive definitely noticed lack of energy and ability to exercise. I’m hoping that once I stop the jabs that will come back.

We go on holiday in a few weeks. It’s an expensive one weve been planning for a while. Current pen will run out before we go can’t decide if I want to take a break or not. What have others done re holidays?

My latest pen was a 4 dose only one annoyingly

There’s a whole community on Reddit of microdosers. Some start on 0.25mg and are super responders, it’s likely you are sensitive to the meds if it’s been working at 1mg so I think you’d still get some of the inflammation benefits on a lower dose. I’m micro dosing 0.5 from a pen and it’s working for me so far

Sorry I'm not up to date with this thread but has anyone who is with Voy seen their click counting article?

I'm on my 3rd pen and was just looking through the app and one of those little articles at the bottom of the homepage said something like 'want to move up a dose early?' and talked about click counting and said that a pen is fine for 8 weeks use.

They disappear once you've read them. I asked the AI and it swears blind they've never done an article on click counting!

Anyway I thought the 8 week thing was interesting, I'm counting 0.6mg on my 1mg pen which is 7 doses.

And an update from me

Just taken dose 10, weight loss very slow now but other than week either side of my period it's still coming off at 0.5kg a week. I won't move up unless it completely stalls.

I have food noise but not a huge appetite, all I fancy these days is sweet stuff so I'm having some within my daily calories.

Total weight loss is 4.5kg, I'm now bmi 24.

SE is mainly nausea, not very bad. I also feel really flat, just no motivation to do anything but I have so many things going on it could be anything.

I'll be switching providers soon too.

If you keep the pens in the fridge they’ll be fine for a while, if the liquid turns cloudy it’s time to bin it. I microdose from my pen and I’ll keep it for roughly 8-9 weeks in the fridge. I don’t take it out and bring it to room temp just in/out quickly for jab day

@JT1987 that’s great, I’ll check out Reddit. Thanks

How’s everyone doing this week?

I’m noticing that I’m finding this heat easier to cope with, having lost almost a stone.

My progress has been very slow but I’m reasonably happy. I’ve had my 6th jab this week and am down a total of 3kg was hoping for a greater loss but I guess slow and steady is ok.

I posted on another thread thinking it was this one! I've stalled a little, trying to go hold out and push my jab back a couple of days so I can get back to jabbing on a Sunday and having more supression mid week, as thats my downfall. Not feeling any noticeable suppression the last few days but I'm trying to resist the snacks and the heat is helping a little (well, apart from ice cream)

I have put on 2kg!

I think it must be the heat as I’ve been away in a very hot country and now returned to this heatwave!

I’ve not changed my eating at all and had the same suppression as usual. So must just be water retention (I hope!!).

Oh and I’ve just switched provider (again!) to Swift Dr - thanks for the recommendation @kljdslhs877 and decided to stay on MJ long term at a small dose as I don’t want my peri symptoms to return.

Switching was very easy for maintenance. No fibbing required! I just uploaded my current weight and height (BMI 21), a photo of my ID and current box and a short video of me standing on the scales and all approved and dispatched within 45 mins.

Hi all! I’m following as I was on the Healand Clinic. I’m pretty much bang on 25 BMI, but an overweight belly using the tape measure method. I was just wondering if anyone managed to get higher than Microdose on a lower BMI. Healand clinic consultation went well and said I could start on 1mg but I’m worried it won’t work…

This is the really helpful to know re maintenance.

I was with Healand. They increase your dose if you don’t get the desired results, no issues.