Mounjaro -10 stone or more to lose - Thread 4

[TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne]

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@Weightlossprincess JFC that gynaecologist was rude and totally unnecessarily hostile to you. Well done for pointing out that you've already been on the NHS lists and got nowhere. You don't have to try harder, what a stupid comment. You're doing absolutely brilliantly, don't let this unkind stranger derail you.

Do you have to see her again?

I will be there again in a few months, not sure if it will be her though.
I'm just a bit shocked that after telling me I needed to loses weight and me acknowledging that fact that she didn't leave it. I'm well aware that weight is a huge problem, but she was more interested in having a go at me about not losing it quick enough than she was in talking about my ovaries!

I am so sorry, @Weightlossprincess That's appalling behaviour.
Well done on starting and congrats on a good first month.

Thank you. I just needed to vent xxx

It is mad.

Come winter I will have no clothes which fit but for all the right reasons. A couple of years ago I made myself a lovely practical winter jacket. My first go at making something with a lining. Stopped wearing it because it was getting tight, now it's huge on me.

Last year I made myself a silk jacket for a family wedding. Also now huge. Also I bought double the quantity of silk I needed in case of mistakes in cutting out. I have an awful lot of silk!

@eibbed999 DD (8 stone loss and also has ASD) has talked about this. Taking away the comfort blanket of eating isn't always going to be easy.

Obesity is a symptom of a lot of problems. Some of these are helped by mounjaro but there will be others which need different help.

I don't understand why a HCP would feel the need to make comments like that, when you had already clearly said you were aware and already taking action, at your own expense, after waiting 2 years on the NHS and getting nowhere.

You will probably replay the conversation in your head for a couple of days until the shock of it wears off, and you can consign it to history! In a few months, your weight is likely to be much lower again, and hopefully whoever you speak to then will acknowledge that.

Sorry your struggling a bit. 2lb loss is great any time though. I've been lucky that the small of alcohol turns my stomach now. Except Baileys at Christmas was OK. Last Summer I was at a party on a balcony at the Excel and people were smoking and drinking. I stopped smoking 25 years ago, and stopped vaping six years ago but I had to leave as the craving was so strong I thought I would give in. Addiction is very hard and strikes at weird times.

That's disgraceful. Pay her no more mind, silly woman. She should have more compassion for her patients.

@Povertytrapped yes, I think it's likely to help with the craving and snacking. It certainly has for me. I was very lucky that I had an immediate response to the first dose, which isn't intended to produce significant weight loss for the majority. I stopped having any interest in snacking from the first day onwards. Many people find that happens in the first week or two. I used to eat crisps and toast all the time in response to tiredness, stress, boredom, unhappiness and so on. Now, I just don't. It is pretty astonishing to me.

The addiction thing is interesting. I've read that people who have weight loss surgery are at risk of replacing food with another addiction - alcohol or gambling. I rarely see that discussed as a WLS risk. My experience of counselling (with specialists) to address my obesity as been poor - so I don't have any confidence that doing counselling now would help me.

Don't let it get you down @Weightlossprincess - the gynaecologist has not walked in your shoes, and is obviously enjoying the role of master of the universe (which sadly many medical professionals seem to). Funny how they don't see any danger at all in doing surgery on obese people when they're getting paid a fortune for gastric sleeves, isn't it? She should realise that jumping on you like this is not helpful. Stay calm, and remind yourself that you're doing the right thing. You are paying for it privately while at the same time being berated by someone from the NHS for not using it earlier - it makes no sense, and if they paused their judgement for just one minute they'd see that. The attitude problems is not yours. Just keep doing you!

Fucking hell. I love the approach the woman who does the glucose blood tests at my GP has. She'll say that as my BMI is over 30 she needs to note it for referral to weight management, but always says it in just a very factual way. That's the process so that's what she's doing. It always feels like she has managed to completely separate the technicality of weight, and what that can mean in the case of surgery etc, from any sort of 'just do better' judgement.
Obviously being obese isn't healthy. We all know that, we aren't stupid. But how do medical professionals still not know that 'just work harder, fattie' isn't remotely helpful!
If you can, try to shake off her judgement. You're doing something very positive for yourself and by yourself. Focus on you and what you're doing because that's what really matters.

I'm not sure if it can change mindset around food and triggers. I do it in conjunction with Fast800 and it makes it easy to stick to. It has made me loathe alcohol though and I can't eat tomatoes or cheese anymore. I can manage one piece of bread a week when before I would have 4 slices for breakfast same for lunch as well every day.

I was told yesterday my role is being considered for redundancy and panicked about affording my jab! Not the rent my bloody jab! My partner is super impressed with my weightloss and said he will pay till I find a job, love him. I have three pens on order already paid for so hopefully I'll find a job quickly. There's only four people work for the company and I am the only one who is not family so pretty sure I'm a gonner.

I have not as yet given in to the siren call of the booze and fags, though I'm always aware of possible addiction issues. I wonder if the weight loss itself is in a way another obsession - what will I do when I've finally achieved my goal? I don't think I'll know who I am without my weight issues! Though to be fair the Vinted addiction is coming along nicely too...

@SilenceInside thank you, that sounds promising...now I just need to see if the GP will help, as I'm not in a position to get a private prescription...maybe I should go and see them soon in case I do manage to lose some weight on my own...it is coming off slowly but it's a daily battle not to head for the bread bin...

@Doggymummar sorry to hear about your redundancy...and great that your partner will buy your pens in the meanwhile. That's my biggest concern, that it can't actually make much difference to what's going on in my head...I already eat very little (genuinely, I've really cut down to three small bowls of food a day - I'm not kidding myself like I used to!) it's "just" sticking to the Fast:800 that's challenging...

@Povertytrapped I have been on mounjaro since the end of November. Since starting I am eating a lot fewer carbs in general and bread in particular. And I was a real fiend for bread.

This has just happened naturally. It hasn't really needed a lot of effort from me.

The only rule I impose on myself is that I eat my meals in order: vegetables then the protein than the carb. In general by the time I get to the carb I am a lot less interested and frequently leave a lot. Even when it's DH's roast potatoes which are worth crossing continents for.

I am completely addicted to Whatnot 😂 just received a load of parcels today and I felt the adrenaline rush. I'm trying to quit, but I can't quite do it.

@GnomeDePlume that is very encouraging...I can take or leave many carbs but bread is a real problem and always has been. Somehow it is comforting in a way that other food isn't, even writing this makes me crave some...so if mounjaro can help with that, that would be amazing...

@Povertytrapped sadly I think it is very difficult to be prescribed weight loss injections via the NHS, and I think currently GPs do not directly prescribe. You would need to be referred to the specialist weight management service, which may have a waiting list. Then you'd need to work through their tiers, usually a counselling/diet coach type app/group, then more individualised dietician advice and so on until you reach the top tier and may be offered bariatric surgery. Some areas will offer Wegovy (semaglutide) instead of surgery. The few people on these threads that are prescribed Mounjaro by the NHS are prescribed it for Type 2 diabetes, with weight loss being a secondary outcome.

Is anyone else having trouble being happy about their weigh loss for fear of upsetting other people?

I'm in week 6 (7th jab due Thursday evening, my second 3.75) and I've lost a lot of weight in that time. Not an unhealthy amount but definitely above average. I've had a whoosh this week following my period last week, so mostly water weight. Problem is that I worry about sharing it on here (especially my monthly board) in case I make people feel bad.

I keep seeing posts about people struggling, people that started at the same time as me losing slower and being unhappy about that. I honestly want to be sensitive to others but it's making me feel like I can't be happy about my achievement. Like I have to downplay and justify my losses as simply due to how heavy I am, when I've actually been working really hard and earning it. Not that other people aren't working hard too, but everyone's journey is unique.

I'm sure that things won't continue like this forever, that I'll have weeks where I sts or gain, but right now I'm so bloody happy and grateful. MJ has been amazing in supporting my diet and exercise efforts. I have no one to share this with IRL, so right now I'm having to keep everything in when I just want to celebrate.

Not sure what the point of this post is really, just a feelings dump. I'm also procrastinating on a work task so I'm on MN when I should be concentrating 🤣

Be out and proud. @AlicesMum2025 Don't censor yourself.

I am jealous (in a good way) of you big losers. And I am pleased that for me Mounjaro enables weight loss in a simpler and much easier way that anything else I've done. At under or just over 1/2 stone a month, it's good. Yes - I'd like to be shedding a stone or more a month as I did on a vlcd - but this is my reality, and at under 2lbs a week, in line with most research results.

I totally get what you say about bread. Before starting mounjaro bread was the bit of a meal I really looked forward to.

For me, soup was just something which meant I could have bread. We no longer have soup because I'm not interested in the soup (never was) or the bread.

I loved bread, loved making it, trying different breads etc. Now, it's just something to wrap my lunch in and stop me getting the sandwich contents (mostly lettuce) all over my hands.

Which has just made me think about lettuce parcels instead of bread sandwiches.

I've felt a bit guilty sometimes about being one of the people who it worked for from day one @AlicesMum2025 . It feels unfair for the people who it takes several dose levels to kick in.
The only thing to do is run our own races though. A lot of people in the Nov starters thread are hitting maintenance. One is in the 7 stone bracket now (she keeps stressing me that she's very very short!). They're at the finish line while I'm approaching mile 13 but their race is not my race. I'll get there when it's right for me.
I'm not normally very zen at all, but there's something about how well mounjaro works that is making me way more chilled than usual about this 'weight loss journey'.

hmmm @SilenceInside, that's disappointing as I'm on v low income and no way can I find £ for even the low dose each month. I was considered pre-diabetic a while back, but I don't know whether that still applies. Guess I'll just go the GP and see what they say and take it from there...but it doesn't sound promising does it...

@Weightlossprincess what a bitch! Sorry for the language, but where does she get off being so fucking rude. If she wanted to give you health advice she should have done in it a supportive way. Like you, I wouldn't have known what to say at the time 🤬

On the subject of surgery though, I had to have a plate and screws put in my ankle and the anaesthetist didn't bat an eyelid about my weight. He just said that all anaesthesia has a risk and that they operated on people larger than me all the time (size 26). Granted this was emergency surgery not elective, but it's total BS that high weight is a risk factor on its own.