April 2025 Monjourno Starters - Thread 3!

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Hopefully the title is correct this time!

Thank you for sharing your perspective. DD and I are very close and she has said before that she’d like to lose weight but has never sought my specific advice on how to do so. I have never commented on her weight but my DH (her dad) has occasionally in the past made comments like ‘Gosh do you really need all that?’ when she is eating a huge portion or having lots of junk food and she has definitely felt judged by him because of that, she told me. He had sharp words from me over that as I was terrified of her developing an ED or low self esteem so he no longer comments on anything to do with her diet. Privately though he is worried about both her health and the impact her weight gain has had on her confidence and mental health, even though that seems to be improving a little.

I think perhaps just telling her how I’ve found MJ transformative in terms of hunger and food choices and how much better I feel might be the best option and then see how she responds and if she seems interested.

Thank you. I think I’ll frame it more as ‘here’s my experience’ and see if she seems interested in learning more.

Sounds like a good plan

It’s on their website and also Amazon. I was an Avon Lady too! I was only 17 and now I can’t believe I just walked round knocking on doors all over the local estate! Different times I think!

Here are my thoughts … growing up as a fat child (only three of us in the school!) in the 1980s, the constant teasing and bullying destroyed my self confidence and it’s taken 40 years, dieting, learning to cook and eat healthily to partially heal me. I would have bitten the hand off anyone offering me a way to fix my weight. Mine is partly genetic and was also not knowing what healthy eating and portion sizes even were, or how to cook.
Today’s young people actually have the chance not to be morbidly obese through WLI and im sure over the next few years it will get cheaper and they will be more accessible.
I would totally focus on her health and see what her thoughts are. She may not not be ready to hear you at the moment. Equally though I think it’s important to give her the skills and knowledge to live and eat in
a healthy way. I think the fear of all of us here is rebounding with our weight once we stop taking Mounjaro and yo yoing back and to for the next decade, and so on.
Does she know you are taking Mounjaro? It’s definitely worth being open about at home if you aren’t and share your journey. She might need a few months to make her mind up what she thinks about it.
No matter what, I don’t think you will do the body positive movement any damage or be compromising your own standards by focusing on health. 😊

@GabGab123 its your call of course, but based on what you have described, you’re not getting much from 2.5. It’s sounds like you are ready to move up to 5ml.

I love that you were an Avon lady when you were 17! They had (have) some great products.

Thank you for sharing that, I really appreciate it. I decided to seek her out in her bedroom after I posted just to hang out and chat. After a while I told her how great I’ve been feeling lately and then shared that I’ve been on Mounjaro for six weeks and some of the positive effects it’s had, as well as what the research is saying about its potential. She was happy for me and positive about it overall but she didn’t say anything about how she feels about it, her own food stuff, or anything like that. She was very chilled and casual about it, like ‘good for you mum’ but no more. Maybe now I’ve planted the seed she will do some more research on it herself, who knows. Here’s hoping! 🤞

Hi @GabGab123 👋 Welcome to the active part of the thread!

Re the dose query, I guess it depends how often you holiday / have other opportunities to over-indulge? A few lbs every six months is nothing, it will soon drop off again with MJ and excersize (well done on your workout regime btw!). But if it's every month, it's a bit different.

FWIW I'm on 5mg and I do still enjoy food. I just don't have very much of it!

Thank you!
I guess on the whole I am not feeling very full but on 2.5 I still have minimal desire for sweet things (my enemy) and also no desire to keep eating more and more at meals.
It's weird as wouldn't really say it's total suppression, and still get hungry ish at mealtimes so I feel like it's ok for now.
I guess I'm just nervous for my month away in August but in every other sense happy on 2.5mg.

If she’s on social media, and she had her phone in the room when you were talking, then I’m quite certain some MJ videos will start popping up on her feed!

I did my first step up to 3.75 on my 5mg pen yesterday and I'm really gassy today which I haven't had before. Not sure how I feel about going to full 5mg dose next week.

Is anyone else doing 3.75? But I haven't lost any weight for the last two weeks so I guess I need to balance fear of side effects with the weight loss?

Just catching up on the thread but YES! This is the same for me. I have a toddler who doesn’t sleep and the day after a bad night I am craving carbs and sugar for energy just like I always have done.

@GabGab123 id probably move up to 5mg. It hits me day 2-3 in terms of not being able to eat very much at all without feeling full, but other than that I can socialise, drink and eat as I want to. I’m not binge drinking anywhere near what I used to because I don’t want more than a couple glasses which I’m happy about.
I’ve just got my second 5mg pen and I’m going to stick to that if I can, I’m loosing on average 2.5lbs a week which I’m more than happy with, I’ve got a very similar total weight to lose.

Urgh. I’ve now hit a week without any movement on the scales. Tomorrow will be end of week six. I know I’m eating in a deficit so I guess I just have to wait this out. Part of me wishing I’d gone up to 5mg but I’m getting a really good effect with 2.5mg - minimal hunger, fuller sooner and no cravings - just wish this was reflected on the scales. Will plug away with 2.5mg for my next 3 jabs then take 3.75 from my bonus dose before moving to 5mg I think….

It seems like every day now there is a contradictory article in the news about WLIs. Yesterday it was a study saying that most people gain back all the weight they lost within a year if they stopped the medication altogether. I might have to stop looking at the news as it’s making me anxious! 😬

@wordywitch I honestly don’t bother reading them. Press reports of studies are so poorly done - I know I’d then have to find the original paper and read that and analyse if it’s a high quality study etc - I’m a doctor and don’t get any of my continuing professional development from the mainstream press so why would I trust them to provide reliable information regarding my personal health? They are just seeking the most sensational spin they can put on things.

having said that I am a serial dieter. I’m very good at dieting and I can look back over the last thirty years since I first went on a diet aged 15 and see that I follow a cycle where I lose a ton of weight… it then take me a couple of years to gain that back… I diet again and the cycle continues. Michael Mosley talked about this somewhere - he was very honest that regain happens but his take was that the health benefits of the time spent losing and at goal and gaining are still massive compared to staying at a steady high weight.

I’m not going to kid myself that short term Mounjaro is the answer to my chronic weight problem - I have very very loud food noise and I’m a terrible emotional eater. I know how to eat healthily but I can’t sustain it long term. I’m going to work on this with my therapist but I’m planning to be on WLI for a long time - maybe even forever and I’m ok with admitting that.

@wordywitch and @Incognitoburrito88 I think many 'diets' result in rebound weight because the person treats it as a temporary change rather than a lifetime change to the way they eat.

We've changed our plate and bowl size in order to permanently reduce portions (my issue, portions have gradually gone up over time).

I accept that I'll eat 2 meals a day now for ever, or occasionally one on those big meal days.

I also accept that at times I'll relax and eat and or drink a bit more, such as on holiday. But I'll tighten my belt and nuckle down afterwards to get it off.

Worst case I'll stay on a low dose if I need it. I've been in maintenance for 6 weeks now, taking 2.5mg and am fairly stable (lost 1.2lb in that time).

I think stability for at least 6 months is essential to allow the body to accept the new normal and not try to rapidly regain. That's my personal theory, so I'm testing it 😊 good luck

@incognitoburrito88 don't feel disheartened, last week I only lost 1lb even though I knew I had been so so good, it has now been reflected in this week's weight loss. Before that would have been enough to knock me off progress but I know we/I are in this for the long haul.

Week 5 weigh in 4lbs down. So happy with that after disappointment last week.
17.5lbs down in 5 weeks, can't complain about that. My first level target was 2 stone with 3 pens so I'm well on the way to hitting that target. I've done every diet under the sun before & have been successful at losing (before gaining it all back) but I need to try & change habits longterm.

Happy Thursday Losers!!!!!!

Thank you that’s really comforting and a great loss this week well done! I do agree the good thing about MJ is that I look at the scales, feel a bit sad and then get on with my day whereas on other diets I’d be thinking ‘what’s the point - I might as well have a glass of wine and some crisps tonight…’

I agree to some extent although when I did Fast800 a couple of years ago I was convinced that was me for life. I was so evangelical - time restricted eating, very little UPF, low ish carb, small portions etc - I did maintain for a while and it took me a full 2 yrs to regain everything but my problem is emotional / comfort eating and I had gained a stone over the last six months because of a difficult life event we’re going through. At the moment I’m not resilient enough to keep the weight off on my own but maybe with therapy I will be able to change. Everyone is different though and I fully believe that not everyone will need WLI long term - for some people it will just be changing habits and re-educating themselves.

W4D7 for me and I’ve lost 8lbs in total across 4 weeks.

I am happy with that, especially as I did a half dose in week 3 because of terrible SE. I’m actually going to space my doses out more now and do one every 10 days as the suppression is still strong for me after 7 days and I don’t want to go back to diarrhoea in the middle of the night 😣 slow and steady is fine for me!

Next delivery today and I’m sticking with 2.5mg for the next month 👍

Weigh and jab day.

-3.9lbs for this week. Takes me to just a smidge over 10% body weight lost 😱😱Happy with that this week as next week I’m due on so probably won’t be great.

have tried 7.25 to see if that helps with hunger levels if not I will go back down to 5 for next week as will be better cost wise.

when I went on this I hated myself a bit and thought I will only be on it for a very short time and then come off but now I’m not so sure. I’ve always thought each diet and time I have lost weight is for good and it never sticks. And this would be such an expensive way to just gain it all back. And if I did start gaining I assume I wouldn’t be allowed to order it again until BMI went back over 30? So wonder if it’s best to small dose at least for a while