Mounjaro October starters - Thread 6!!

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Thread 5 is nearly full as we are zooming through them quickly.

Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas 🎄🤶🏻❄️🎅🏼

Now to continue the weight loss….

I just had a real crisis of confidence, normally I’m really confident, but I’ve more meetings tomorrow and was just madly trying on clothes and getting my rather bemused husband to say which was best.

I think it’s as I’m seeing even more bloody colleagues and as much as I’m sure everyone will be lovely again, it’s as I know there will be focus on my weight/appearance due to last week, so this time I’m now stressed about what to blinking wear. Didn’t even think twice about what I was wearing last week. Now I’m over thinking it, 👀

is anyone else kind of struggling with the change in their appearance and seeing folks they haven’t seen since before they started this journey? Or am I the only weirdo ..😂

It's my bible! I should really invest in the hard copy version as I only have it on audiobook and some of the surgery bits and anecdotes are a bit much more than once so would prefer to skim! But learning why calorie counting doesn't work and getting our bodies to reset our weight is a total revelation and explains that one stone overweight that became two... and that we can't override the hormones!

Thank you for all the messages.
Flu and 6mg dose did the trick this week and I lost a half stone - yikes (too fast I know).
I’m still feeling pretty listless after the flu so I had a 5mg shot from my bonus today to finish off the 5mg pen (19th dose). I’ll start back on 6mg (from my 7.5) next week I think.

Total weight loss is now 3 stone and 4 lbs.
SW 15 stone 1 lb
CW 11 stone 11lbs
GW 10 stone 3 lbs

Hopefully I’ll feel well enough to go back to the gym later this week as muscle building is what I really need to work on.
Good luck this week, everyone.

@Losingthetimber I’m struggling to dress my new body right in my eyes.
I was going out on Sunday to meet a friend I last saw in Dec and the nice size 12 dress I had thought I’d wear is now so baggy I had to use a waist belt with it. My friend was now asking if I’m still losing weight as I’m not looking like myself anymore. She meant well because I felt like that in the dress.
Now if I wore something tight fitting, it won’t seem like I’ve lost too much weight but then I can’t wear one because I’ll be self conscious because my belly isn’t flat enough. So for my 2 days in the office, I have to prepare my outfits ahead etc.

My legs are disproportionately skinny compared to my belly, torso, so I work out outfits the night before with mainly wide leg trousers to look more 'normal'. Can't wait to finally get to a place where I can open the wardrobe and wear whatever I fancy!!

I'm also having issues with clothes, they are either too baggy or don't fit right around the wobbly bits - my tummy! My legs are remarkably thinner and I feel conscious I'm starting to look like an apple on matchsticks 😬 I'm trying to build up my muscles a bit to even it all out.. flattening my tummy will help, easier said than done!

It’s hard isn’t it, both sad and glad it’s not just me, even packing this morning I had a wobble and threw an extra outfit in.

in some ways it was easier fat, as I always knew what I was going to wear, due to limited choice, and always black or navy and stretchy, and simply assumed no one gave a toss, which I’m sure they didn’t, and still don’t. But one hundred percent I know it will cause attention later today/tomorrow, so now I’m anxious. Ffs.

on a positive note, 5 months ago I was on 75mg of losartum and 10mg of amlodipene for my blood pressure, the doc wanted to move me up to 100ng of losartum, and I said no, I would try mounjaro first to see if it was my weight.

I’m now on 5mg of amlodipene only , half the dose, and no losartum at all, and think I will soon have to come off that too, as my blood pressure is running at about 110 /65, which is low.

so my ever escalating blood pressure was weight related.

@coastergirl Really hope you feel better soon.

@Losingthetimber Hope all the meetings go well today. I understand how you’re feeling. Everyone is starting to notice now and even though I work from home, I live in a small town so you bump into people regularly.

My clothes aren’t right. They are too baggy and not really sitting right. I’m loathe to go out and buy new stuff because I still have 3 and a bit stone to go. I might go to Asda next week and get some basic stuff to tide me over.

Great news about your meds. This is a wonder drug.

@lapuf I have the hard copy, happy to post it to you if you like?

@JustKeepsBreathing The good thing about flu is that it always includes weight loss Glad you’re feeling better x

@Tohaveandtohold That is exactly what it is! There’s stuff I want to buy and wear but my body isn’t ‘right’ yet.

@NearlyNewHip Oh I cannot wait to walk into any shop, pick up a size 10/12 and not have to worry about it!

I love this- finally not feeling 'yet another summer that I hate how I feel and what I wear'

It's wonderful!

Totally agree @HansHolbein and @Searchingforthelight I normally have a sinking feeling re summer as could no longer hide my legs in my thick black tights.

@Losingthetimber Great news you have been able to reduce your medication.

Vinted has been great on my weight loss journey. I have bought several dresses/ skirts/ jeans, many still on the brand names website at mostly 85% of list price when I factor in postage. Google lens (which I only discovered over weekend) is great for seeing what an item looks like on the original website rather than just seeing it on a hangar and guessing length etc.

In a quest to increase my fibre had the most tasteless snack. Chia seeds, psyllium husk, blueberries, milk and Greek yogurt. 15g fibre.
If anyone has any ideas on increasing fibre that doesn’t taste like cardboard let me know😂Am managing to eat 120g protein a day so pleased re that as even that isn’t easy.

On Sunday I pulled out my sewing machine and tightened a few of my favourite winter clothes especially around the waist as I have lost 7cm off my waist and they were looking like smocks. Started 2nd October, slow loser from 13 stones bmi 32 to 11st 8lbs bmi 28.7. Its only recently that I can see it in the mirror myself though I've had lots of compliments. This week already had compliments because people can see my figure better.

Has anyone had any issues with swallowing vitamins on high suppression days? I've never been one to gag but I've noticed it happening now on mornings of high suppression when brushing teeth and difficulty swallowing. Now my 7.5mg has worn off within a few days, I can swallow my larger vitamin easily, first time in months!

@Bluenose1966 . Yes the speed of which I’ve had to reduce the meds is a happy surprise..

@Mysticmaiden2024 , I can’t do the larger ones, I have to crunch them, it’s disgusting, the smaller ones are fine, but the bigger ones have always made me gag. Not sure that’s helpful though as it isn’t mj related for me, I just can’t get them down. 😳

Anyone notice they look different in different mirrors?I look fatter in the hotel mirror. Than I do in my home full length one. I can’t tell how fat I actually look. In my home one, I look ok. In this hotel one, I defo look chubby,

i think my wardrobe mirrors are overly flattering , I recall my friends teenage son being in the bedroom not long after they were fitted, and he’s always had weight issues and he said, god I look really slim, and was sort of posing, as me and his mum looked on a bit bemused and agreed with him. I thought he looked the same in the mirror as he actually looked, now I’m thinking some mirrors make you look fatter and some make you look slimmer maybe?

I can relate to the posters struggling to dress their bodies.
I pulled out a couple of dresses the other day to try them on, both a 12 and both fit. Yet I’m not a size 12. I’ve got jeans in a 16 that are falling off me and I tried on some 14’s and they are way too snug. Similar styles but just not comfortable. And yet the 16s are going to need a belt as they just don’t stay up.
so for a while I’ll just be wearing clothes that are drowning me because I can’t figure out wtf to do or what size to buy.

@Mysticmaiden2024 i wish I was confident enough to get my sewing machine out and adjust my clothes ! I’d probably just end up wrecking them all - that’s quite a skilled job! Well done you 🙌🏻
INCREDIBLE weight loss going on out there! Well done everyone - 7lbs in a week! That must have been an awful bout of flu! Glad you’re over it @JustKeepsBreathing
Like many of you, I’m now finding my clothes aren’t fitting and make me look much bigger than I am! A fabulous problem! I’ve actually found I can wear clothes I kept for sentimental reasons, like my going away outfit- honeymoon -(now 20years old! ) DH and I waited 16years before we tied the knot! This is incredible as I really never dreamed I’d be able to do that. I’m still worried about buying new clothes as I’m paranoid about gaining weight without MJ - I have to get my mind in order !
Listening to ‘Why we eat too much’ has really made me examine everything I put into my mouth! It’s kind of derailed me
in a way as I’m now feeling so unsure about how I will maintain my weight loss (think I was in cloud cuckoo-land about how I would be able to do it) and now I’m really worried about how I will manage to reset my weight set point! Knowing myself to be a serial dieter over the years and definitely each diet has eventually left me heavier than before! All the information about omega 3 and 6! Sunflower/vegetable oils are in literally everything!! It means making everything from scratch, which when I was younger with less responsibilities and more time I used to do and enjoy - I’m going to have to try and get back there somehow! Or maybe somewhere closer to that! I do cook but I do buy convenience food too! Along side that basically cutting out all refined carbs,
alcohol and sugar, something I’ve managed to pretty much do on MJ, bar a couple of squares of Bournville chocolate most evenings! It’s not going to be easy without MJ - I realise I need to prepare for this (this is a forever change - not a diet) as otherwise my body/subconscious autonomic system will be against me until I put the weight back on and some more for safety !! That cannot happen!!! HELP! I hope I can do this !!!! I love the new/back to the old me! I never want to go back to where I was - I was so incredibly sad.
I’m trying to increase my protein and fibre - as a pescatarian I’m eating loads of fish and think I need to start using loads of lentils and pulses - now my husband keeps telling me how many PFA’s there are in fish! They’ll be nothing left to eat🤣
For fibre there’s inulin powder (has lots of health benefits) which doesn’t taste awful like psyllium husks ! I had to throw my powder away as it was absolutely disgusting! I now use tablet form. I just try and eat tons of vegetables everyday?! I’m going to try and eat savoury protein based breakfasts instead of my normal fruit and yogurt but that’s going to be a big change for me!! Mainly due to effect of sugars in fruit first thing in the morning on insulin response! Might keep
my fruit for a snack/treat in the evening ! Trying to even out any serious ups and downs before I come off MJ! I’m definitely someone who struggles with sugar! I have 1 and a half pens left - might try an extra 2.5mg too before coming off completely. So I really need to get myself ready to go it alone!!
Sorry for rambling on - just the stuff on my mind !

Good eating tips there @EVK I will have to investigate inulin and need to start using pearl barley and red lentils more in soups etc. The health podcasts I follow say a high protein breakfast is best.
Everything you are musing re maintaining weight loss I am the same. I have put weight back on so many times in the past that even if I did try to come off MJ totally would pay the £15 per month to Oushk so could go back on if required within the 12 month period
Research shows that most people put over 66% of the weight back on within a year of coming off. It seems those that change their eating habits ie high protein and do weight training regained 10% but I fear that the old cravings will return and I did weight training prior to weight loss so not a magic bullet. On Reddit there are quite a few in USA who have come off then gone back on within a few months due to weight regain. I am thinking maybe tapering down then month on / month off strategy to reduce costs.
Can’t quite bring myself to get rid of my old clothes yet!!!

@coastergirl Hope you feel better now!

@Bluenose1966 I drink my chia seeds. I add it to squash and drink it through a straw. Even my kids drink it ha

@Mysticmaiden2024 I am not as talented as you sadly and I cant stitch any of my clothing, My daughter actually has a hole in her coat that im debating giving it a go and stitching up as it cost £50 not long ago!

@EVK How long is this 'Why we eat so much' book? Im not into listening to audiobooks so ifs it too long I don't know if it will peak my interest enough to listen to the whole thing! My mum read a book recently and she was telling me about it and it was something along the lines that when we eat a meal we should eat the veg first, meat and then the carbs... something to do with helping spikes but I cant fully remember what she told me now!

I woke up this morning with a massive headache! so drinking some electrolytes.

No idea what is going on with my body this week either... I just did a mid week weigh in and I'm UP 2lbs from Saturday when I weigh.

There is no reason I should be up 2lbs, I haven't been bad at all!
So that's annoying, first time this has happened since OCT when I started and what's even more annoying as I'm away working Monday - Wednesday which means I'm in less control of my food and I'm up 2lbs. 😡

I haven't got time for BS like this, my holiday is only 6 weigh ins away! haha

I think using my last MJ dose last week Saturday and having no back up has left me feeling the same way as you @EVK and @Bluenose1966 . On Saturday, I was so happy and confident, today I’m scared though still confident. I read also about how weight training and exercises help with keeping the weight off as well which I’m never stopping as that’s like what I’m holding as a life line and I feel if within a year, based on those statistics, I regained 10% of what I’ve lost then that’s not bad at all.
Also, I feel not having a back up plan of going on MJ asap and the will I currently have to not go back to the way I used to be will mean I’ll continue with all I’ve planned. I feel that by December, already now be turning to habits. I’ve always been the only one who didn’t exercise in my household before so there’s now a herd mentality I’m also relying on, one that makes me get up and go even if I don’t want to, I’ve told DH to hold me accountable as well, scared but hopeful.

I’m definitely staying on, I just don’t know what that will look like, I think two more pens to get to goal, but I’ve about 5 in tn4 fridge, so will need to count clicks. As I taper down, I will do 7.5 for a couple of months and see how I feel.

i was chatting to my husband about this at the weekend, I think I under eat by 1000 cals a day, or more, as I lose just over 2lbs a week on average, but that seems a huge increase daily, from 1400 to 2400, and I need to count weekends, as I do wish to drink again and enjoy meals out and takeaways, I genuinely don’t wish to live like this for ever, more I just want to take enough to knock the edge off my appetite and ensure I don’t gain. It’s so hard to judge.

Oh and no comments here on my weight loss/appearance but they keep looking at me like I’ve grown two heads. 😂 It’s the senior management team, so no comments is understandable, and fine. Hoping they have got over it by this avo’s meetings. At one point yesterday I genuinely wondered if I was talking funny or something. Maybe they are also wondering if I’ve developed an eating disorder or am unwell. 😳

@Bluenose1966 I hear so many people talking about vinted so I went on yesterday (forgot about it and haven’t been on in a while) and I was greeted by a nearly naked woman… I clicked on it and the description was ‘well worn… can be very worn… message me’ Anyway, I spent some time on there and my god you could spend hours of time and money! So many good bits on there.

@Mysticmaiden2024 7cm, amazing!

@TheChosenTwo Argh me too! My trousers are a bit iffy but the top situation is awful. I’m also still in a weird place mentally about how I look. Surely I’m still that 20st woman? I lost about 4st before MJ but I sometimes still think I’m 16/17/18/19/20st, know what I mean? I still think I need to wear ‘fat’ clothes. Tents and smocks. It’s going to take me a while to get out of that mindset.

Might go to M&S next week once I’ve been paid as they have changing rooms. For some reason Asda got rid of their changing rooms after Covid - WHY! Sometimes I am tempted to try on the clothes in the Asda loo and then return there and then but last time I went in the Asda loo I nearly vomited because it stank… of fish and poo. It was ghastly.

@EVK Lots of food (sorry) for thought there. It’s all a bit overwhelming isn’t it? I think we do have to give ourselves a bit of grace here.

Unfortunately, we are all probably a bit damaged from years of dieting and shame. Being balls deep in diet culture and expectations has probably left us all scarred for life. It’s everywhere we look and it’s very hard to get away from. Try not to get too in your head about it. This modern life is vastly different to times gone by. We’re all so busy working/looking after kids/parents/admin/car needs a MOT/fuck passport is going to expire that we’ve just got to try our best. I try not to get too in my head about what I should and shouldn’t be eating because then I get a bit all or nothing and then mess it up.

Lots of word salad there, sorry.

Wonderful that you got the honeymoon outfit out though!

@Bluenose1966 Totally agree. I’m not even thinking about coming off. It’s definitely a concern. With the blasted PCOS I’m looking at forever to be honest.

The problem with the attitude from some ignorant people is that once you’ve been overweight for a long time and have had to endure years of yoyo, everything is messed up. Eating less but more protein and moving more is just far too complex for those of us who have struggled. Obesity at the core is deep and tangled for a lot of us.

As the patents wear off and other WL treatments are introduced, I think it will be likely that most of us will be able to stay on some form of treatment forever. I did read somewhere (can’t back it up as I can’t remember) that if we can maintain for a year or so then it will become easier. For me I know that as soon as I stop it will all come back.

On a different note, the sun was out for about 15 minutes this morning. I had a cup of tea out there… spring is coming!

For those of you wanting to change supplier, I have recently ordered with an apparent new kid on the block - https://medicinemarketplace.com/

I am not on commission or anything I promise!

I ordered on Friday 14th Feb my next dose (10mg) and the same day I was contacted by Whatsapp by a pharmacist asking for ID, copy of previous order from the other supplier and a short video message confirming when I started on MJ, how much weight I had lost, any side effects and my end goal weight.

I recorded the video same day and send the docs at the same time, but added a note that as I am moving house this week, I needed to either get it sent asap, or delay it being sent so I could have delivered to my new address.

First thing yesterday morning I had a whatsapp video message form the pharmacist saying it had been put through for dispatch and I have received confirmation it will be delivered today. Very impressive!

They dont appear to mess about with discount codes or anything, but my 10mg was £135 including next day, temp controlled delivery. To compare, I have £40 credit sitting in my medexpress account, and my 10mg with them would have been £156 (with credit and postage) so they seem to be beating a lot of the other providers, even those who provide discount codes.

@Fizzleawayyy1 omg I had that last week! I had put on 3lbs for no fucking reason! I was soooo angry. I think it must have been not drinking enough whilst I was in Poland, plus all the travelling/flying fuckery. Water retention or something. It’s gone now but very annoying when you’ve been working hard all week… all for nothing. In previous ‘diets’ that would be my ‘FUCK YOU!’ point and the biscuits would get it. At least with MJ we can carry on.

@Losingthetimber Glad things are going well... so far lol. I have a big party thing in June and I’m going to look like a whole different person. Last time I saw them was in October so the comments will be thick and fast I expect.

@HansHolbein , yes if folks haven’t seen you for awhile it does seem to take them by surprise, especially if they don’t know you’ve been dieting. You can see it in the reactions.

I genuinely think my face is the major surprise, not my body. I was looking back at pics I took a year ago with my daughter, I don’t tend to do selfies, and my face was so puffy , double chinned and round, I recall thinking wny does my face look like that,😳,it is now really quite thin and angular in comparison. So I just look like me again, but no one will remember that.

im also unsure what size I am, I wear a size 10 , a 12 and a 14. The tens are big made, the 14 small, so I think I am a 12. However, there is part of me thinks there is no way I can order a 12 with a fixed waist band and it will do up. So any new clothes I’ve bought have had stretch. Like tops or dresses.im not brave enough to buy fixed waist band yet.

@Fizzleawayyy1 The book didn’t take that long to listen to, couple of long dog walks and while cooking etc. I found it so interesting that it didn’t seem that long. @Tohaveandtohold you can do it - But for sure it’s a different beast going it alone - @Bluenose1966 i like the sound of your approach - tapering and then using Oushk’s monthly fee so you have a safety net. I might contact them for a consultation - I’m with them anyway. As someone said if you can keep
it off for a year then you stand a better chance of keeping it off. It can take a long time for our bodies to reset our set point weight - so it could be a good approach for me. Perhaps I need to be thinking about staying with the maintenance package for 12 months so that if I struggle I can go back on. I wonder if they let you start back on 2.5mgs as soon as you put a couple of pounds back on?!! I don’t know!!

Anyway, in other news - I went jeans shopping today and asked for a size 12 but ended up with an 8!!! Mint Velvet wide legs (as thought I should try getting out of skinnies - kids say I need to move on!) I had to order as I’m short and they only kept regular in the shop, so I’m going to have them delivered and try them again at home. The 10 was a bit roomy but the 8 was fitted!! Not sure if I’d be wise to have a bit of room ?! Nice problem ! I couldn’t believe it. The girl in the shop asked me what size I was - and suggested an 8! I was like ‘no way!’ I’m a 10 maybe or probably a 12. Of course it’s so dependent on different shops and styles of jeans - some I was definitely a 10 but all the 12’s were too big! I couldn’t believe it as my jeans (skinny jeans) at home are in size 12 I’m now wearing them again and they are ok! Basically- I don’t know what size I am now ! It’s so weird going shopping and not feeling totally depressed about my size - it’s lovely but so unfamiliar! Also, there’s this worry worm saying - you’re this size now but…!!

@HansHolbein you're a star thank you! I should just nick my sister's copy that I bought for her  we started on the same day
@EVK I just broadly follow the principles without being religious! For example I will have the Spanish omelette from M&S that has a bit of veg oil in but figure it's still way better than a sandwich.
@Fizzleawayyy1 the main stuff is in the first chapter and then the rest builds on it! It's addictive though as Evk says, it makes all the science and logic about calorie counting make sense!

@Fizzleawayyy1 …do we need a new thread..