Mounjaro August starters thread 9 (OMG)

[NippyCrab]

Hey, since we are nearly at 970 posts i thought I'd take a turn and start a new thread...

So welcome everyone to our amazing August starters MJ super group ❤️

Xx

Just came across this Urgent warning as violent diarrhoea bug cases surge - and common remedy won't work - Mirror Online
@Blondeshavemorefun Hope you feel better soon😊

Oh interesting @MabelSpan

This must be me as honestly I've never felt so poorly and I'm not an illl person

Love the way they say stay at home

I had no choice in early days as needed to be near a loo /basket

No cooking for anyone - hmmmm impossible as only me for mini blondes or she would starve lol

Tho she could live off crisps, apples bananas , yogs and croissants if need be

Morning everyone,

Hope you are all rested!

Next doors dog woke me up this morning. It will come outside, bark once or twice just to set our dog off (J).

That is literally all it does. It purposely comes out just to bark at J.

We figured this out as in the summer, whenever we would go out into the garden (they left their doors open), minus J then their dog would come out to bark. We tested this theory out several times and it is true. It doesn't come out and continuously bark like some dogs do.

We felt we couldn't let J enjoy the garden in the summer and we have to carefully time when she goes out into the garden for whatever reason as their dog sets her off.

It's not her barking back I'm bothered about, it's how anxious and stressed she becomes.. I am at my wits end with it, but what am I supposed to say?

Anyhow, I managed to have some supermarket Indian food last night which was alright and then....

I went to the gym and swam 200m 😄!!

I know it isn't a lot but I haven't been swimming for at least 6 years and with how unfit I am, I'm happy with that.

I then used the jacuzzi/sauna/steam room facilities but I felt a bit odd. Some people were quite handsy or would keep looking at you and it felt a bit like a swingers club or something haha.

I can feel the aches this morning but I'm happy. I'm hoping to go at least 3x a week.

Good morning all, how are you? @Princessandthepie congratulations on your loss and NSV, you definitely need to go shopping, I bet you are a svelte 2 sizes down by the sounds of your clothes. It's a great feeling. 😍💃

@Blondeshavemorefun how are you feeling this morning? And @owlyboo are you still on the mend?

I am one coffee and half a banana down and I'll have another coffee then brave the elements with 2 dogs, one brat has 3 claws instead of 4 on a paw because in his rush to be first out the crate in the van, he caught his claw and the whole thing came off 😂😂 I'm a bad Mum laughing but he's such a flipping calamity Frank Spencer.

I had a shake for dinner last night, the ones you have @Blondeshavemorefun and 50g of protein is good, I'm trying to have the recommended amount although it varies from site to site. If I average it out its about a gram per kg so I'm 77kg but I'm having a lot more than that per day, is that okay do you all think?

I wish my goal would hurry up, i don't want to go above 5mg but if i want to lose i need to realistically actually get to 5mg 😂 I'm at 4.17 with 50 clicks lol my DH thinks it's hysterical I'm such a lightweight!! There's no laughing here ya bam I said 😂

I've the 5th dose left and pen in the fridge so if I order another 5mg will that be me? Who knows, then I can go onto maintenance and start to go down doses.
I'm saying the same thing every post i think 🤔 it's all I'm focusing on, although my usual brain is up and down, indecisive and easily swayed by reading other posts on their Plans.
Have a fabulous Sunday xxx

@Fuffedoff I hate to be the breaker of this news but steam rooms are often used for swingers meets 😂 as Rizzo sang "keep your filthy paws off my silky drawers"!!!
It doesn't matter how much you did, you did it! I'm envious of your courage, I said I was going to go and still haven't.
Re the dog next door, are you able to squirm it with a water bottle? It won't be long in stopping xx

@NippyCrab I bought these jeans ages ago and they were a bit snug and now they won't stay up. I was genuinely shocked by that as I just thought they would fit now.
So I'll pop to primark on Tuesday and pick up some new ones.
Will probably need some new tops too as all my tops are size 20, floaty and baggy so as to hide my old, monsterous belly but now they look stupidly big.

For some reason, it's in my head that there's no point buying new clothes now. I'm not sure whether it's some stupid deep rooted reason like I'm just going to get fat again so why bother or whether I'm still seeing myself as a size 20 even though I'm clearly not anymore. I don't know. Feel like I'm rambling now. But I will be going shopping, I have to!

Morning all - hope everyone is doing ok and there have been some fabulous losses - i have just gone back and read the thread as haven't been on since page 2 ! Well done all of you...

I'm not great to be honest; and i am not going to a "fun sponge" for everyone ! I am honestly really struggling at the minute - I have lost all inspiration, motivation, determination and every other emotion that goes with being on this MJ journey.. It feels like i have completely lost my way and whilst typing this i have tears in my eyes...

I have been so positive for 16 weeks, and doing everything in my power to become the best version of myself.. yes i have lost 4 stone, and yes i know MJ is the tool that i need and am reacting well to... but for the past few days I feel like i have got nothing left to give; even though i want this so badly...and have another 5 to lose...

i have eaten nothing but crap, can't face anything nutritious, haven't wanted to go for my swims and have no interest in doing so...I look at myself in the mirror and think i don't even know where i have lost the 4st from as i look the same and my shape isn't changing at all.. I dont like myself at all !!

How do i get my mo-jo back?? FFS.. Why have i lost it???
Sorry for the downer of a post !

@Princessandthepie once you buy that smaller size you won't look back, it won't happen, xx

@Changinghabits1973 big tight hugs from here. Okay so let's take stock, you're allowed to feel like you do ffs, it's the longest and hardest fecking journey and you are not alone on the road. You've lost a whopping amount and I KNOW you will be a different person, don't focus on the next big goal, let's make your next goal every 1/2 stone? Ignore the end of the rocky path/road, focus on a little step. I don't know you but it sounds to me like you work very hard, you give empathy and support in your posts and i suspect you give very little kindness to yourself. Please don't punish yourself. So what, you've eaten shit, that's a miniscule blip in how far you've come! Have you recently went up doses? I'm wondering because low mood is a symptom and it's awful. I have MH conditions anyway and it's one reason I need to stick to low doses.
You can't be bloody Mary Poppins everyday, if you don't feel like a swim how about just a short walk? The weather isn't helping moods either its so bleak and dreich. We are all here for and with you, never apologise for any posts you make, it's a support thread not a chirpy false thread, our journey is brutal.
I'm blabbing now, keep talking today and please stay on your road xxxxx

Sorry you’re feeling bad @Changinghabits1973. Hey, hadn’t you heard that MJ was such an easy option? 😬🙄

Seriously, it’s not surprising or uncommon to have a really low patch, it’s just surprising how bad it feels when it hits! Constantly under-nourishing yourself is brutal, even if it leads to better health and hopefully improved nutrition. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid it feeling bad. It’s more that your positivity has kept you going through it rather than that something has failed. It’s worse when eating crap has probably been how you regulated feeling bad in the past, even if we all know it’s a rubbish strategy. Hang on in there like @NippyCrab says and do the next tiny step. You’re having a halfway wobble, it will pass, just don’t let it make you chuck everything away.

@NippyCrab
@weaseleyes
THANK YOU... Your posts were lovely and am appreciative of your words....

I know we have all had shitty times in our lives; without saying too much i have been through an awful lot over the past 5 or 6 years, more than someone would ever think even possible, and i did control my emotions throughout such an awful period of my life by comfort eating the bad times away - i just wanted to block everything out and only got happiness as i called it through eating.. this time of year is rough for me and i know the next few weeks are going to be a struggle to get through emotionally and TBH i can't wait for January 2nd 2025! I am aware that there will be triggers in December and possibly that is contributing now to the low mood - I don't have a partner or children and am on this journey for myself...but being by yourself every day creates hurdles and obstacles too !!
i haven't gone up in doses yet, i am due to at the end of next week to 10; but this is reminding me now i think back to how i felt on my first week of 5; my mood plumeted and was very tearful all week.. then it subsided and i felt back to "normal" ...

I need to dig deep and fight back to get back on the path that i need to be on.. it might be the amount of carbs i have eaten over the last few days that have contributed also to this tearfulness ... I will hopefully ride the storm out sooner rather than later ! xx

@Blondeshavemorefun I am glad you think this bug is what you have, I was starting to worry. Better a bug than have to give up MJ! Hoping you are feeling a bit better today.😊

@Fuffedoff I think your nextdoor dog is a right pain and it doesnt seem fair to have to restrict your dogs enjoyment in her own garden! I agree with @NippyCrab and giving it a quick squirt if you can. I wonder if J gets more stressed because she can see how stressed you become, you know how easily our dogs pick up on our emotions. I wouldnt restrict her garden time to avoid the other dog, if they have a bark off, let them, the other dog needs to see that all his noise isnt going to scare J off and keep her indoors, giving him all the freedom of "his" outside space territory. Its not "his" its Js. Bless her. Give her a cuddle from me. Huge well done on your swimming, 200m! Thats a very long way! I bet you felt so good after that!😊

@NippyCrab Dogs eh! There is always something! I bet he howled, poor boy. I cant remember how far you are from goal, but know its close. If youre still losing why go up? Especially if you are planning to cut down and then stop MJ. I am a light weight like you, only on 4.25mg and my plan is to increase by .25mg only when the suppression fails or the food noise returns.😊

@Princessandthepie Congratulations on your falling down jeans! Just dont spend too much on clothes as if the fit you now they will be falling off you in a month or two!😊

That’s the spirit @Changinghabits1973 🤗 We’ve all got different set ups and context, but we’re all on this journey for and by ourselves too - we have to be. Maybe it’s time to really think about what would help you cope with things in the moment if it’s not food? I’m really trying to think about this for myself too! A lot of the time I just go out for a quick walk. It’s distracting, helps manage stress and has health benefits! Even for 5 minutes - I feel the crisis has passed when I get back. Obviously it doesn’t have the same hit as a cheese sandwich, but coming up with something to help ride those waves of cravings/despondency/hopelessness whatever can help. It’s rubbish when you’ve had a long dark time. But it helps me to remember that though it can feel unending, often the very worst intense feelings can be quite short (within the bigger rubbish context!) and just waiting them out makes you realise they’re survivable.

@Changinghabits1973 Have a big happy healing hug from me🤗
You mustnt be so hard on yourself! You are incredible. What you are doing is incredible.
MJ is known to flatten and depress moods in some people (I am one of them), so dont think it is "just you" or that you are "failing" you are not. You are just having a little bump in the road, it will pass.
Look at how far you have come. If you were anything like me you probably ate crap most of the time, well you dont anymore! So what if you had a few days of it, that is nothing in the grand scheme of things! As soon as your head is back in the game, which it will be very soon, you will be right back on it and we will all be here cheering you on.
If you can face it, go outside, have a good walk, look at the sky, the trees, let mother nature give you a big hug and by the time you get back home you will feel as though a cloud has been lifted.
Reading your second post as I type this, we have a lot in common, I know how hard it is having to do it all on your own. Having to pick yourself up and carry on regardless of the pain. I do understand.
Tomorrow is another day. Just get through one day at a time. Dont think beyond that until you are feeling brighter, which you will, very soon.
If you think the MJ is affecting/triggering your low mood, as it did with me, perhaps do a small increase, if any, until the low mood lifts.
Always here for you x😊

The thing is, for the past 4 months, i have coped really well...

I know what i need to do to help my mental health; and that has been swimming; to go as often as did was honestly helping every part - physically and mentally; it was my "me" time and when i got back i honestly felt set up for the whole day - whilst swimming i had got my mind into the zone, i had been able to compartment things that i was stressing or worried about and it was honestly my happy place - i handled my cravings as best i could; i ate cleanly and healthy and had a "cheat" meal very occasionally; i focused on nutrition, exercise and myself...
It has paid off - and i haven't found it a struggle, honestly...
That's why i dont understand really why i am struggling now... losing the momentum and drive has knocked me!

I am going to try and go for a nice walk up to Tesco and post a parcel and see if i can shake these tears and low moral !

Thank you so much guys - virtual hugs to all of you xxxx

Just completed my first month on 10mg and am only loosing 1/2 lb per week 🥲

bonus dose this week then up to 12.5 mg next weekend and hoping to get a bit more weight loss.

@Changinghabits1973 you are on the right thread for great support and understanding. Sending more hugs and reassuring you it's OK. Christmas and New Year can be very hard...even with children and a partner. I am not a fan of the 'Festive Season' these days and at the risk of sounding like Ms Scrooge I am ignoring it completely this year. Keep posting here and I am 100% sure there will be lots of support as always. Wishing you the best

@Changinghabits1973 we're all allowed to have off days, you'll be OK.
It's still mentally draining dealing with all this, it's still a slog and we're allowed to have off days!

Big hugs x

@Changinghabits1973 nothing to add to the wise words on here but dropping you a virtual hug and encouragement. We can’t always be ‘up’ so don’t beat yourself up for it. Clear your head and go again.

It’s ok to acknowledge how low you’re feeling - if you try and hide it then it just rots and gets worse. Accept you are a complicated emotional person just like everyone else and then do what makes you feel good. This page is great for support if you need it as people genuinely want to be there for each other in whatever way we can.

Hope you feel more positive soon but don’t get discouraged if it takes a bit longer xx

@Changinghabits1973 sending a big hug. Lots of this is resonant with me - shite time over the past 5 years, comfort eating to flatten down the emotions and have something to look forward to. Compartmentalising feelings and muscling through with intentional cheer is one way through it but that also takes energy, you know? So sometimes just saying fuck it and slobbing on the sofa with a heated throw and trashy films is absolutely the right response. This is such a tough time of year for a lot of people.

I read somewhere about the difference between self-respect (meeting our basic needs) and self-care (treating ourselves with kindness). You have done so well to get to where you are now - can you treat yourself with kindness over the next month, and beyond? You've got this.

It's interesting how we can do everything 'right', feel better for it, and still want to self-sabotage and can still feel terrible! There's that maxim that whilst some diets may be nutritionally healthier than others, any diet that involves fewer calories will work if you stick at it for long enough, the issue is that mainly people can't stick to it. That issue of not sticking to something is a convenient shorthand, but it covers up a whole complex mess of what makes us stray. I completely recognise how you feel @Changinghabits1973 and that has derailed all my dieting efforts before - and also my maintenance. Of course, you will have your own thoughts behind it.

I think dieting when you are or have been really overweight is like trying to cope with a being on a really low income long term. When you see posts from people on here struggling to manage their money, there's always a few posters being super judgemental of any foolish decision or impulse purchase. But they're usually people who either knew how to budget all along or - much more commonly - they're people who've always been well-off and can make financial mistakes without it sabotaging their underlying solvency. They can pick themselves up and move on with no long term damage. On a low income though there's no margin for error, if you get into debt you can spend years servicing it, and just managing in a state of constant stress and denial is such a grind. All of us can get past a little blip in eating, that's not a crisis, but it's hard not to let it spiral and then punish yourself. We will all have to try to prevent each other moving from blip into spiral!

Wow @Fuffedoff cold turkey from 10mg is brave! But it seems like your head is in a good place and I have no doubt you'll smash it.

@Blondeshavemorefun do you feel better knowing it was likely a nasty bug and nor related to the MJ?

@Princessandthepie great loss and NSV!

@Changinghabits1973 big firm hugs. Four months is a big chunk of time and a wobble though upsetting for you is no big deal. Progress is never linear. I'm willing to bet a lot of us have buried our feelings with food so it's not surprising losing literal layers will leave us feeling exposed and this time iof year is hard for you. Now is the time to be kind to yourself and remind yourself you needed this crisis to process some sad and difficult memories and feelings and will resume stronger. Nobody can approach this (especially us who have more to lose) thinking we'll sail through it without without any hitches.

@Fuffedoff neighbours dog baths to annoy your dog? Weird

Handsy? I would be slapping any hands that did touchy feeling with me or say hands off !!!

@NippyCrab poor claw. It can hurt bless him

How much more do you want to lose

@Princessandthepie happy shopping. Wish my jeans /clothes would fall off me

@Changinghabits1973 sorry you are feeling down. Do R.E.M. how far you have come. 4st is amazing !!

But. I do get how you feel. I feel the same. I look in the mirror and don't see a massive change. I'm still in same size clothes so where has the weight gone /come off

So don't think you are alone in how you feel.

The weather and Dark nights don't help either and don't beat yourself up over having a few blips/treats

This is a lifestyle change and have to have some nice yummy foods to eat

@MajorCarolDanvers sorry to hear that. I found 10 was my number but maybe 12.5 will be yours

How much have you lost - what's your height and weight /bmi now and how much more do you want to lose

@FlappingMadly @NippyCrab @MabelSpan I am still not 100% 🥲

Yesterday was ok after been sick

Bread roll and Pasta stayed down. Went to bed

Met friends for brunch this am. We did the usual fry breakie. Last time on mj I ate it all and fine

This time I picked at it. Think I'm wary of eating non bland stuff but I'm ssoooooooooooo Hungary so need to eat - all I managed

1/2 slice of toast. Fried egg. 1/4 sausage 1/2 rasher of bacon

Was ok for a couple of hours.

Got home and then a small 💩 splatter 😳😳😳😳

Def not as bad as before

So I do think it's a bug and not mj

But as I said Before I'm never ill. This has knocked me for six and dd bless her was mummy you ok all week ans been worried about me as she's never seen me like this

It's a standing joke I have a cast iron stomach. Could eat raw chicken etx so this has pow wowed me

@Changinghabits1973 don't apologise for telling us about your struggles, this is one of the things that this thread is here for! There's been many wise responses to your posts already so I will just say that I hope you are feeling more positive.